[dolem98]

From the article:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')'m hoping that consumers will see through the rhetoric about consuming less, demanding less, as faulty. It is not a given that consuming less will be good for our economy or for our personal freedom. It is not even established for our environment that we [should] deprive ourselves of gasoline for our personal mobility as well our commerce.

[PraiseDoom]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dolem98', 'F')rom the article:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')'m hoping that consumers will see through the rhetoric about consuming less, demanding less, as faulty. It is not a given that consuming less will be good for our economy or for our personal freedom. It is not even established for our environment that we [should] deprive ourselves of gasoline for our personal mobility as well our commerce.

[joewp]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')I don't accept it[global warming] as established fact, nor do I accept that it would be caused by petroleum consumption, nor do I accept that the human species should not affect its environment. So even if it were someday to be shown to have some small effect on the environment, I see no crime. In fact, taking into account the many, many millions of people around the world that envy our way of life, it would seem more humanitarian to wish them the kind of plentiful petroleum products and vehicles ... that we enjoy ... to lift themselves out of [a] backward, poor way of life.

[PraiseDoom]

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Oh, and I don't usually pay attention to trolls, PraiseDoom, but had you even bothered to look at the article you would have seen that Trilby is a woman. I guess that's why you think everything is hunky dory, you never follow links.

[MattSavinar]

On global warming:

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I don't accept it as established fact, nor do I accept that it would be caused by petroleum consumption, nor do I accept that the human species should not affect its environment. So even if it were someday to be shown to have some small effect on the environment, I see no crime. In fact, taking into account the many, many millions of people around the world that envy our way of life, it would seem more humanitarian to wish them the kind of plentiful petroleum products and vehicles ... that we enjoy ... to lift themselves out of [a] backward, poor way of life.

[killJOY]

Yes, I can 't wait to hear Jan's response to this!

[AlCzervik]

This broad is an attention whore getting her mug in the news every week by basically feeding the press stats from AAA. I hear her all the time on the radio.

Meanwhile, her bro is one of the best peakniks out there.
http://www.thesunmagazine.org/lundberg.html

[ozkrenske]

Man, your not wrong about the brother being the opposite.

He heads an organisaqtion effectively devoted to the annihilation of cars. One of the principal suggestions is the forcible removal of paved roads hence the name of his band the Depavers.

I guess they either have very interesting Christmass get togethers or simply haven't talked for a decade or more.

[joewp]

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Oh, and I don't usually pay attention to trolls, PraiseDoom, but had you even bothered to look at the article you would have seen that Trilby is a woman. I guess that's why you think everything is hunky dory, you never follow links.

[pea-jay]

My guess is they dont speak. I cant imagine how any conversation or gift giving can occur with such different (public) worldviews.

[frankthetank]

Must be an interesting family. Its not that weird, i think most of us have at least one family member that thinks we're nuts and everything is fine?