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Peak oil is geology meets Finance

Unread postby 128shot » Tue 10 Jul 2007, 15:21:44

I've reached my conclusion on peak oil.

Its that peak oil = money problem. Period. Its about the rising cost of everything, and how we as a society let it happen. With exploding credit bubbles and overvalued real estate.

I had a conversation with my mechanic about gas prices just a few days ago, and he mentioned that if people couldn't put everything on "plastic" (meaning credit card, in case you don't know..) our prices for everything would be lower because everyone would be forced to live closer to their incomes than being able to extend their purchasing power beyond their incomes due to manipulation of credit. With everyone re-fing 120% of their homes value, plastic to the limit, and living pay check to pay check, the geological problems of peak oil really become a money problem. While I'm not disputing that its a geological problem, (that'd be utterly foolish), I think its really showing itself in a financial problem that if avoided, would have made this situation a lot easier.
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Re: Peak oil is geology meets Finance

Unread postby MrBill » Wed 11 Jul 2007, 03:46:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('128shot', 'I')'ve reached my conclusion on peak oil.

Its that peak oil = money problem. Period. Its about the rising cost of everything, and how we as a society let it happen. With exploding credit bubbles and overvalued real estate.

I had a conversation with my mechanic about gas prices just a few days ago, and he mentioned that if people couldn't put everything on "plastic" (meaning credit card, in case you don't know..) our prices for everything would be lower because everyone would be forced to live closer to their incomes than being able to extend their purchasing power beyond their incomes due to manipulation of credit. With everyone re-fing 120% of their homes value, plastic to the limit, and living pay check to pay check, the geological problems of peak oil really become a money problem. While I'm not disputing that its a geological problem, (that'd be utterly foolish), I think its really showing itself in a financial problem that if avoided, would have made this situation a lot easier.


I do not disagree with you. But what you are really doing is making a global-geological problem a problem unique to the USA. That is wrong. The implications of post peak oil depletion affect everyone on the planet and not just spoiled consumers in the west that charge up their plastic to the max. There is a huge difference. Americans rightly or wrongly think they are the center of the universe. Wrong in my opinion.

Peak oil is bigger than what your average dipshit does with his Master card. The credit score may come back. The oil ain't never coming back. And that impacts on the other problems we (collectively) have to solve like climate change, peak fresh water and falling water tables, plummeting fish and marine stocks, soil erosion and salination, etc.

I could care less how one country, like America, governs itself IF it did not impact on everyone else on this planet.
The organized state is a wonderful invention whereby everyone can live at someone else's expense.
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