[Zardoz]

Kudos to MSNBC for this: Another signpost that the era of debate about GW is virtually over

There's a ton of stuff to see here. I've only clicked on a couple of the features so far, but it looks quite good.

[essex]

The debate is far from over. There is a growing mountain of conflicting evidence. Cyclical climate patterns VS man made environmental destruction. Of course depending on your standpoint what you look for is what you will find. Vast sums of money will be spent trying to fix something that can not be fixed IMO ( by that I mean the rort of carbon trading ) so that the cornucopian lifestyle of wealthy countries can be maintained - until the oil runs out that is. The resource depleting technological fixes proposed do not address the core problem , overpopulation, which is severely stressing the environment and polluting the air. Until measures are taken to do something about this we are all whistling in the wind.
BTW it's unseasonably cold in New Zealand right now , the South Island has mostly frozen over and here in the balmy lower North Island it's -3.

Look at what people are saying over on BBC.
http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread. ... 4&#3101114

[Lore]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('essex', 'T')he debate is far from over. There is a growing mountain of conflicting evidence. Cyclical climate patterns VS man made environmental destruction. Of course depending on your standpoint what you look for is what you will find. Vast sums of money will be spent trying to fix something that can not be fixed IMO ( by that I mean the rort of carbon trading ) so that the cornucopian lifestyle of wealthy countries can be maintained - until the oil runs out that is. The resource depleting technological fixes proposed do not address the core problem , overpopulation, which is severely stressing the environment and polluting the air. Until measures are taken to do something about this we are all whistling in the wind.
BTW it's unseasonably cold in New Zealand right now , the South Island has mostly frozen over and here in the balmy lower North Island it's -3.

Look at what people are saying over on BBC.
http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread. ... 4&#3101114