[NotMyBlood]

thats whta I'm trying to do...........................

There just arent any buyers..... I have a TH 3 br in a suburb of wash DC. I see other places sitting too. Buyers are waiting. I dont blame them. If I were looking for a place to buy I would wait too. Prices are going down by the month. I think the area has hit a point where sellers are starting to hold tight and buyers are waiting them out. It's a standoff at the o.k. corral. Like I said, Im fine, there is just a little bit of concern that the bottom will fall out and the prices will continue to plummet. If this is really the start of an economic crash, I'll have bigger problems then trying to sell mi casa. A suburb in DC is the last place you want to be if TSHTF hard. Maybe I'll make that vacation in the Caribbean permanent.. I have a condo in aruba. Its small, and I'm not sure what I would do for work, but its got a pretty nice view...


anyway; I posted to this thread because I am concerned about "The Crash". I'm starting to feel it. I think were seeing inflation right now and know one wants to admit it; I know I see prices in just about everything going up. Even the barber shop is charging 2 more dollars for a haircut, cable tv service - up, gas, food, tolls, clothes, even MC'ds, all up. We have a war with no end in sight, global warming to battle, end of a credit cycle, baby boomers retiring, etc etc, and the stock market is setting new highs.....it just doesnt make much sense....

[Roccland]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NotMyBlood', 't')hats whta I'm trying to do...........................

There just arent any buyers..... I have a TH 3 br in a suburb of wash DC. I see other places sitting too. Buyers are waiting. I dont blame them. If I were looking for a place to buy I would wait too. Prices are going down by the month. I think the area has hit a point where sellers are starting to hold tight and buyers are waiting them out. It's a standoff at the o.k. corral. Like I said, Im fine, there is just a little bit of concern that the bottom will fall out and the prices will continue to plummet. If this is really the start of an economic crash, I'll have bigger problems then trying to sell mi casa. A suburb in DC is the last place you want to be if TSHTF hard. Maybe I'll make that vacation in the Caribbean permanent.. I have a condo in aruba. Its small, and I'm not sure what I would do for work, but its got a pretty nice view...


anyway; I posted to this thread because I am concerned about "The Crash". I'm starting to feel it. I think were seeing inflation right now and know one wants to admit it; I know I see prices in just about everything going up. Even the barber shop is charging 2 more dollars for a haircut, cable tv service - up, gas, food, tolls, clothes, even MC'ds, all up. We have a war with no end in sight, global warming to battle, end of a credit cycle, baby boomers retiring, etc etc, and the stock market is setting new highs.....it just doesnt make much sense....

[mmasters]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NotMyBlood', 'I')'m starting to feel it. I think were seeing inflation right now and know one wants to admit it; I know I see prices in just about everything going up. Even the barber shop is charging 2 more dollars for a haircut, cable tv service - up, gas, food, tolls, clothes, even MC'ds, all up. We have a war with no end in sight, global warming to battle, end of a credit cycle, baby boomers retiring, etc etc, and the stock market is setting new highs.....it just doesnt make much sense....

[Roccland]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mmasters', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NotMyBlood', 'I')'m starting to feel it. I think were seeing inflation right now and know one wants to admit it; I know I see prices in just about everything going up. Even the barber shop is charging 2 more dollars for a haircut, cable tv service - up, gas, food, tolls, clothes, even MC'ds, all up. We have a war with no end in sight, global warming to battle, end of a credit cycle, baby boomers retiring, etc etc, and the stock market is setting new highs.....it just doesnt make much sense....

[threadbear]

Bill Moyers interview about--US economic crash:

"So the woes on Main Street reach back to Wall Street and vice versa. That's behind the fear of a financial meltdown. Gretchen Morgenson covers the financial world for the New York Times. A former stockbroker, she's now a columnist and assistant business and financial editor at the Times. She won the Pulitzer Prize in 2002 for her trenchant and incisive coverage of Wall Street. Welcome to The Journal"

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/06292 ... ript3.html

[NotMyBlood]

I'm not an economist, I'm not a broker; I do understand what you all are explaining; But my first question is wouldnt the Fed/Gov/PTB/Corporate Business have a vested interest in seeing a soft landing(taking some profits ofcourse - greedy fucks) as oppossed to the whole system going into a mega-depression?

or is so out of control, no one can really do anything to slow/stop the "crash"? And, I'll be honest, I've been reading about this so called "crash" since I've been 20 years old, its always right around the corner. Meanwhile people are buying mcmansions, sending their kids to expensive colleges and living their whole life in luxury..............no crash for alot of people for a long time......

But, this one has a different feel. My gut feeling is this is Hurricane Katrina. After years of New Orleans missing the Big one, it finally hit.....and they werent prepared...........

[mmasters]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NotMyBlood', 'I')'m not an economist, I'm not a broker; I do understand what you all are explaining; But my first question is wouldnt the Fed/Gov/PTB/Corporate Business have a vested interest in seeing a soft landing(taking some profits ofcourse - greedy fucks) as oppossed to the whole system going into a mega-depression?

[NotMyBlood]

I don't beleive the conspiracy theory about the Illumanti / New World Order/ group of wealthy people trying to consoildate power and control eveything. Thats one heck of a coordinated effort. Its not that I dont beleive it , I'm sure people try, I just dont think its feasible. Hell, people/organizations can't keep themselves from killing each other. They can't control the future. They can't steer world / global events......Its like the whole bush/cheney US government 9/11 plot......It sounds a little out there to me......

However I do believe in individual and collective greed pumping up an economic global system to earn quick profits an inflating the value of everything. Combine that with overshoot and a resource crunch and thats a recipe for disaster. I dont think anybody is coordinating these events though.....Its almost a natural process...

[Roccland]

JP Morgan and GSax will be standing when all else are "consolidated" after the great unwinding of 2012.

Ever wonder why the GSax breed has recently taken 4 high end political positions in the government?

Our new world banker cronnie comes right from home bred GSax ilk.

Oh yes - there are much greater powers that B than ol Dubya.

And for the US - those who authored the PNAC are top o' the shit pile.

[MacG]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NotMyBlood', 'I') don't beleive the conspiracy theory about the Illumanti / New World Order/ group of wealthy people trying to consoildate power and control eveything. Thats one heck of a coordinated effort. Its not that I dont beleive it , I'm sure people try, I just dont think its feasible. Hell, people/organizations can't keep themselves from killing each other. They can't control the future. They can't steer world / global events......Its like the whole bush/cheney US government 9/11 plot......It sounds a little out there to me......

However I do believe in individual and collective greed pumping up an economic global system to earn quick profits an inflating the value of everything. Combine that with overshoot and a resource crunch and thats a recipe for disaster. I dont think anybody is coordinating these events though.....Its almost a natural process...

[threadbear]

It's not being "controlled", NotMyBlood. There is forward momentum, fuelled by greed and driven by a group's natural inclination to seek out a leader or leaders, who they will gladly hand the steering wheel.

Can't you feel similar forces at play, on yourself, even in the mundane realm? Think about the term "conspiracy theorist", in itself, and it's effect on you. How easy it is for a group to quietly fund and provide media attention for a few well respected individuals who eschew the liklihood of conspiracy and popularize the notion that conspiracies can't and don't exist.

They seed the cultural realm with this idea, it becomes entrenched, and pretty soon people recoil at the thought of being lumped together with 'conspiracy nuts'. If you don't think there are vast social engineering programs, of this nature, you should read a book called The Cultural Cold War. People's aversion to the term is likely part of a deception campaign to maintain order and docility. The noise to signal ratio makes it difficult to recognize the distant whispers of cultural machinations and manipulations. The fact that a lot of conjecture about control programs is clearly nutty and driven by people with some kind of axe to grind, doesn't mean all conspiracy conjecture, speculation, based on circumstancial evidence, and reaon, is bogus.

NMB--Take MMasters pretty seriously. He's one of the better thinkers on the forums, and knows how money works, which gives him a leg up on a lot of the nouveaux suspicious. The illuminati, powers that be, etc... isn't merely myth. They do exist. I think that there are major battles going on between different factions, right now. They have internal squabbles much like the different factions of organized crime.

[threadbear]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MacG', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NotMyBlood', 'I') don't beleive the conspiracy theory about the Illumanti / New World Order/ group of wealthy people trying to consoildate power and control eveything. Thats one heck of a coordinated effort. Its not that I dont beleive it , I'm sure people try, I just dont think its feasible. Hell, people/organizations can't keep themselves from killing each other. They can't control the future. They can't steer world / global events......Its like the whole bush/cheney US government 9/11 plot......It sounds a little out there to me......

However I do believe in individual and collective greed pumping up an economic global system to earn quick profits an inflating the value of everything. Combine that with overshoot and a resource crunch and thats a recipe for disaster. I dont think anybody is coordinating these events though.....Its almost a natural process...

[Roccland]

I see the prince of darkness, Kissinger, is still working his culling magic.

link

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'F')ormer U. S. Secretary of State Dr. Henry Kissinger and former Russia Premier Yevgeny Primakov in their joint strategic working group are carrying out the details. Kissinger arrived in Moscow in late April and late last week fighting broke out between South Ossetia and Georgia. South Ossetia is supported by Moscow-Berlin-Washington while Georgia is supported by Ankara-Tehran.

[NotMyBlood]

thread - i do take most posts seroiusly(i can spell,just cant type). I learn alot on these message boards from guys like mmasters. And I do recogonize the efforts of the IC community and their global manipulation. That goes for every government/country. I have some in depth knowledge and read a great deal about those subjects. And although its interesting to speculate about organizations like the illumanti, I like to deal with more mainstream known facts and assumptions. And I do believe certain entities attempt to steer/engineer events. But , its like UFOs. Do we have any hard facts that they actually exist? I guess it all depends on the context and scope of the conversation, but I'm inclined not to get carried away too much with such speculation.

[Heineken]

I believe that the economy, like much of the rest of civilization, has become far too complex to be smoothly controlled by puppetmasters. Too complex, too big, too bloated, too layered and intertwined. No one could ever completely understand it, and no one does.

Sooner or later this mysterious, overextended monster is gonna unwind, generating hurricane-force winds.

I have taken every penny I and my family own out of the stock market.

[threadbear]

NMB, Funny you should mention ufo's.

Astonishing new twist

But last week came an astonishing new twist to the Roswell mystery.

Lt. Walter Haut was the public-relations officer at the base in 1947 and was the man who issued the original and subsequent press releases after the crash on the orders of the base commander, Col. William Blanchard.

Haut died in December 2005, but left a sworn affidavit to be opened only after his death.

Last week, the text was released. It asserts that the weather-balloon claim was a cover story and that the real object had been recovered by the military and stored in a hangar.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,287643,00.html

HEINEKEN--I agree with you about the economy being too complex to be micromanaged in the way you describe. However, ideology and monetary policy have accomplished a great deal. That's overt. There are plenty of covert forces driving what eventually becomes the day to day reality. What is discussed at the meetings of the Bilderbergers regarding economic policy is felt by every man and woman in the developed world, eventually.

[Roccland]

Not to threadjack, but for seemingly intelligent people to not believe in alternative life forms is very odd indeed.

Religion and our "education" system have succeeded remarkably well.

[NotMyBlood]

I believe that the economy, like much of the rest of civilization, has become far too complex to be smoothly controlled by puppetmasters. Too complex, too big, too bloated, too layered and intertwined. No one could ever completely understand it, and no one does.

This was what I was trying to say. Although organizations like the illumnati may exist, I dont think they can 'control" much.


Roccland, I may believe in God, but I can't prove to you he exists.

Again , depends on the scope of the conversation, but for the most part I like to concentrate on things that are verifiable. There very well could be alternative life forms, in fact, its hard to assume that there isnt. But, I cant prove or verify that. I can verify that there is a War in Iraq, an energy crisis, overshoot, a clash of civilzations, a housing slump, and that its July 4th 2007.

Off subject a little but in light of the bombings in the UK, I watch the news almost in anticipation of a terrorist attack in America today. But I dont know, maybe they have decided to leave America alone for now or maybe they just can't pull off an attack. Bin laden pissed alot of people off in the middle east for pissing off the great satan.