[PolestaR]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ayame', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Gideon', ' ')I'd say most of the "wealthy" people I have met have busted their asses to get where they're at.

[max_power29]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mmasters', 'H')ow will people handle the future? Declining Energy? Possibly another great war? How about class warfare? How will the media respond to the situation when things are clearly getting out of control? Will the fat people attempt to revolt? Will there be mega riots? Will families come together more or be torn apart more from the stress? Will people tolerate a police state? Will the word on peak oil and other events catch on like wildfire at some point? Will peak oil be a well known problem or will it be kept hush and we will have constant distractions, war? diseases? etc... Will people come together more and help each other out, or will they all screw each other chasing the dream? Who will win? Will there be mass murders at the pump? Will we make friends with the Mexicans? Will we do battle with them? How will Canada react when it gets merged into the NAU?

[Grautr]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PolestaR', '
')I mean I can see Gideons point, but he is really talking about being middle class, and what is that really? Busting your hump until you're 50 then retiring to travel, with a house and 2 cars under your belt? I dislike the lack of options in our society, if you want to have some land to do what you please on it, you're forced to work for 10-20 years to "earn the right". What other species need to spend 25% of their life doing something before they have their own habitat?

[Grautr]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mmasters', 'W')ill the fat people attempt to revolt?

[katkinkate]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Grautr', '.')......A lack of options is how I would describe it too. I was once ranting about how we are pretty much stuck in our societies when someone replied to my post and said;
"why dont you just fuck of and live in the woods then if you dont like it".
Of course that would be nice except every wood and piece of land is owned by someone now. You cant even get out of your own country unless you have a passport. We are trapped into the societies we are born in and you either make the most of it within the system or undermining the system (criminality) but you cannot escape the system.

[bshirt]

In the USA, you can "never" own your own land free and clear.

Even mortgage free, you're just renting it from the SS Gestapo government.

C'mon PO!

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('katkinkate', ' ')Even when you do manage to buy your own little bit of territory, there are so many regulations, fees and bylaws you have to adhere to you may as well just pay rent.

[bshirt]

Shannymara is correct.

Three cheers for Texas, where some real freedom still exists!

It's hard to believe, but even in my tiny (less than 200 people) town in South Dakota, the morons have zoning codes copied from Chicago or someplace else.

One can't even put up a swingset on your own property with requested and paying for a some mindless "permit".

[mmasters]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Gideon', ' ')I'd say most of the "wealthy" people I have met have busted their asses to get where they're at.

[mmasters]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('max_power29', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mmasters', 'H')ow will people handle the future? Declining Energy? Possibly another great war? How about class warfare? How will the media respond to the situation when things are clearly getting out of control? Will the fat people attempt to revolt? Will there be mega riots? Will families come together more or be torn apart more from the stress? Will people tolerate a police state? Will the word on peak oil and other events catch on like wildfire at some point? Will peak oil be a well known problem or will it be kept hush and we will have constant distractions, war? diseases? etc... Will people come together more and help each other out, or will they all screw each other chasing the dream? Who will win? Will there be mass murders at the pump? Will we make friends with the Mexicans? Will we do battle with them? How will Canada react when it gets merged into the NAU?

[jupiters_release]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mmasters', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('max_power29', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mmasters', 'H')ow will people handle the future? Declining Energy? Possibly another great war? How about class warfare? How will the media respond to the situation when things are clearly getting out of control? Will the fat people attempt to revolt? Will there be mega riots? Will families come together more or be torn apart more from the stress? Will people tolerate a police state? Will the word on peak oil and other events catch on like wildfire at some point? Will peak oil be a well known problem or will it be kept hush and we will have constant distractions, war? diseases? etc... Will people come together more and help each other out, or will they all screw each other chasing the dream? Who will win? Will there be mass murders at the pump? Will we make friends with the Mexicans? Will we do battle with them? How will Canada react when it gets merged into the NAU?

[NotMyBlood]

Canada is America's little resource bitch, and that will never change.

lol, too funny. I'm not sure why but canadiens get on my nerves. Maybe just the "frenchies".


I find the questions and answers in this thread interesting. I think about it often too. Predictions are fine, but I've come to the conclusion that it extremely difficult to answer these questions. To predict how the(future) coming energy crisis/overshoot will unfold.

Remember when New York lost power for 20 some odd hours. People were stuck in the street. I dont think a crime was committed in that time(or if there was it was at a min). I think initially after an "event" people will pull together, remain calm, and try to help each other. But if "situations" are persitent and unchanging with no relief, then its every man, woman and child for themselves(like new orleans). I think the transition from oil to ???? will be a major event in history. How bad(if its gets bad) is my question. I think the system has become so complex and people have changed so much that we just arent prepared for any major disruption to food supply, lasting long periods. Especially in the USA. Its going to be interesting to say the least. My gut feeling is, in 15 years life wont change much for the majority. Events like 9/11 will occur. Wars like Iraq will continue, something bad in Africa will be happening, Euorpeans will be pissed at America for something, and I'll be in my cibicle bitching about it all.

[jupiters_release]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NotMyBlood', 'M')y gut feeling is, in 15 years life wont change much for the majority.

[WildRose]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Gideon', ' ')Go down to Brazil and talk to the million or so impoverished people living in the big cities and ask them their opinion of "barely keeping afloat". When they tell you that "barely keeping afloat" means not finding any food in the dumpsters for two days in a row, you'll realize what a ridiculous ass you sound like describing <i><b>any</i></b>Americans as "barely keeping afloat."