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Re: My consumerist sheeple meter is screaming off the charts

Unread postby TWilliam » Sun 01 Jul 2007, 13:23:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('snowshoegal', 'I') truly loathe the telephone and the interruptions it brings to my work flow.


Yeaaaa... ain't it great that most come with an off button now? :roll:

Speaking of Apple:

[video width=400 height=350]http://www.youtube.com/v/rTOoXpeNwMI[/video]
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Re: My consumerist sheeple meter is screaming off the charts

Unread postby snowshoegal » Sun 01 Jul 2007, 14:01:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TWilliam', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('snowshoegal', 'I') truly loathe the telephone and the interruptions it brings to my work flow.


Yeaaaa... ain't it great that most come with an off button now? :roll:


I understand the rolled eyes, TW. I could have been more concise.

I do not work in an office. With what I do for a living, I often have to have the phone turned on when working on location for the sake of safety (incoming weather, bears, avalanches, lost clients...) and communicating with the rest of the group I might be working with, but at the same time it interrupts the creative process that is key to my finished products and to my teaching efforts.

If you believe the studies about right and left brain modes, you'll understand how difficult it can be to get back into the groove after an interruption by a wrong number. Even if on vibrate or no-ring, invariably some telemarketer or poller calls.

Further, a client or student's phone will go off and it wrecks the experience for all. Some clients will not turn off their phones.

So, yes, this kooky gal hates the phone. 8)
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Re: My consumerist sheeple meter is screaming off the charts

Unread postby master_rb » Sun 01 Jul 2007, 14:07:39

TWilliam, thanks for the movie, really good
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Re: My consumerist sheeple meter is screaming off the charts

Unread postby TWilliam » Sun 01 Jul 2007, 14:22:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('snowshoegal', 'I') understand the rolled eyes, TW. I could have been more concise. ... etc. ... etc.


Ohhh believe me, I get ya. I hate the damn things too. Seems like most people have forgotten that my phone is for my convenience, not theirs.

People blathering away in public on their cellphones with zero regard for those around them drive me nuts too. Sometimes it's SO tempting to get one of these. Too bad they're illegal in the U.S. ...
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Re: My consumerist sheeple meter is screaming off the charts

Unread postby Baldwin » Sun 01 Jul 2007, 15:14:16

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Grautr', 'M')y step daughter wants an ipod costing 200 euros. Her mother pointed out that she had lost 2 MP3 players over the last year and that she could save the money for something else because she could use her old ipod (the original design).

My step daughter looked at it and said;

"I'm not walking round school with that fridge!"


My condolences. I am surprised she hasn't asked for the iPhone. After all, how long will it take for the 200 Euro iPod to become the next "fridge".


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')'ll admit that cell phones are a bloody well convenient on occasion. Enforced convenience now that pay phones are dead and the emergency channels on CB or ham radio are unlikely to be monitored.


On very rare occassion. They're so prolific, I just borrow a cell phone. I didn't even want one, but was given one. I've made 3 calls in the past 9 months. I don't even charge it.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'p')eople are insane


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Re: My consumerist sheeple meter is screaming off the charts

Unread postby TommyJefferson » Sun 01 Jul 2007, 15:55:29

Ha! Good vid TW.


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Baldwin', 'O')n very rare occassion. They're so prolific, I just borrow a cell phone.


I confess to doing the same thing. When I need to make a long-distance call, or check home while out motorcycling in the hinterlands, I freeload on the phones of others.

My mother-in-law calls this "cheapbastard". I call it "thrifty frugal I win".
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Re: My consumerist sheeple meter is screaming off the charts

Unread postby Baldwin » Sun 01 Jul 2007, 16:27:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TommyJefferson', 'H')a! Good vid TW.


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Baldwin', 'O')n very rare occassion. They're so prolific, I just borrow a cell phone.


I confess to doing the same thing. When I need to make a long-distance call, or check home while out motorcycling in the hinterlands, I freeload on the phones of others.

My mother-in-law calls this "cheapbastard". I call it "thrifty frugal I win".


Let's say I am in the car with my mother, sister, and father. If I needed to make a call for some reason the three of them have phones.

Sometimes when the bus doesn't show at school (it is a private school with people students hailing from different towns). There are about 8 people who'll lend me a phone if I ask. This happens once a year.

ONCE! That is all I'll need the phone for, to call up my grandfather to give me a ride.
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Re: My consumerist sheeple meter is screaming off the charts

Unread postby WildRose » Sun 01 Jul 2007, 17:17:18

Our family is a real oddity, it seems. Of the five of us, the only one who has a cell phone is my husband. This one is work-related (he has to be easy to contact on the weekends). Our teenagers sometimes relate that they are somewhat removed from the groove because all their friends have one, but really they do not make a big deal about it. I have to admit that at times it would be convenient to have one. But as far as the iPods and iPhones and all goes - man, am I ever out of it.
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Re: My consumerist sheeple meter is screaming off the charts

Unread postby Zardoz » Sun 01 Jul 2007, 17:20:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TWilliam', '.')..Speaking of Apple...

What a classic! Thanks!
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Re: My consumerist sheeple meter is screaming off the charts

Unread postby WildRose » Sun 01 Jul 2007, 17:29:14

How many of you have done this...

While standing in line at the bank, grocery store, etc. you hear a cheerful Hi! from behind you, turn around and say, Hi, how are you, only to realize the person is yakking on their phone. (Just a friendly reflex, I guess...)
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Re: My consumerist sheeple meter is screaming off the charts

Unread postby killJOY » Sun 01 Jul 2007, 18:51:08

How about being in the middle of a lush field of strawberries for a morning of picking, and a twat next to you is standing there, laughing and yelling into his cellphone. This really happened to me last week.

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Re: My consumerist sheeple meter is screaming off the charts

Unread postby TWilliam » Sun 01 Jul 2007, 19:13:56

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('killJOY', 'H')ow about being in the middle of a lush field of strawberries for a morning of picking, and a twat next to you is standing there, laughing and yelling into his cellphone. This really happened to me last week.

M U R D E R.


Yes, and now we have "Bluetoothers" walking around with their wireless phone headsets looking like the f*cking Borg. I'm waiting for someone to invent a device that broadcasts an insanely loud feedback-type screech on Bluetooth frequencies... :twisted:
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Re: My consumerist sheeple meter is screaming off the charts

Unread postby Plantagenet » Sun 01 Jul 2007, 19:47:46

You know the nutty street people....the kind who are always muttering or screaming at no one?

If the government would just glue a cell phone headset on their heads, then no one could tell them from "normal" people. :)
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Re: My consumerist sheeple meter is screaming off the charts

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Sun 01 Jul 2007, 20:01:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('master_rb', 'T')William, thanks for the movie, really good
dittos. That's funny. btw, have you ever heard those talking cash registers that say "Thank You!" I must have heard talking cash registers say "Thank You!" a hundred thousand times since they were introduced.
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Re: My consumerist sheeple meter is screaming off the charts

Unread postby cynicalheretic » Sun 01 Jul 2007, 20:35:52

What is really fucked up, is the fact that when you tell people that you don't carry a cellphone-- they look at you, like your a fucking Leper. I get asked what my cellphone number is, at least 15-16 times a week and everytime I feel like I need to make up sort of fucking excuse for why I don't have one. It is bloody fucking annoying.

They can't seem to figure out how the hell you survive day to day without one of those fuckers.
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Re: My consumerist sheeple meter is screaming off the charts

Unread postby Baldwin » Sun 01 Jul 2007, 21:04:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cynicalheretic', 'W')hat is really fucked up, is the fact that when you tell people that you don't carry a cellphone-- they look at you, like your a fucking Leper. I get asked what my cellphone number is, at least 15-16 times a week and everytime I feel like I need to make up sort of fucking excuse for why I don't have one. It is bloody fucking annoying.

They can't seem to figure out how the hell you survive day to day without one of those fuckers.


Atleast your excuse is that you don't have a phone. I don't even know my phone's number.
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Re: My consumerist sheeple meter is screaming off the charts

Unread postby I_Like_Plants » Sun 01 Jul 2007, 23:18:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TWilliam', '
')Yes, and now we have "Bluetoothers" walking around with their wireless phone headsets looking like the f*cking Borg. I'm waiting for someone to invent a device that broadcasts an insanely loud feedback-type screech on Bluetooth frequencies... :twisted:


We have tons of those Borg around here. Fucking amazing.
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Re: My consumerist sheeple meter is screaming off the

Unread postby master_rb » Mon 02 Jul 2007, 00:54:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')dittos. That's funny. btw, have you ever heard those talking cash registers that say "Thank You!" I must have heard talking cash registers say "Thank You!" a hundred thousand times since they were introduced.


it must be west coast thing, we have casheirs doing that over here
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"The reality is that US consumers will pay high gas pri

Unread postby KevO » Thu 05 Jul 2007, 17:23:56

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')US refinery
During summer months, oil prices tend to follow US petrol demand
Global oil prices have touched a 10-month high, breaking past the $73 a barrel level in the face of soaring American demand for petrol.

With an estimated record 41.4 million Americans hitting the roads for Independence Day travel, analysts predict a squeeze on US petrol stocks.

As this spills over into increased US oil imports, Brent crude went as high as $73.12 a barrel in Wednesday trade.

Seen as the best guide to global prices, it then fell back to $72.90.

Meanwhile, US light crude was down 1 cent to $71.40.

Ongoing anti-government violence in Nigeria has also put an upward pressure on global oil prices.

'Willing to pay'

"The strong upwards momentum in the oil market remains in place," said Barclays Capital in a report.

The surge in US demand for petrol comes despite record high prices at the pumps.

"The mood in the market has been bullish, driven by the gasoline market in the US," said Victor Shum, energy analyst with Purvin & Gertz in Singapore.

"For crude to retreat, the market will need to see signals of demand going down.

"The reality is that [US] consumers are willing to pay high prices."



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Re: "The reality is that US consumers will pay high gas

Unread postby KevO » Thu 05 Jul 2007, 17:31:59

I'd go far as to say that US consumers will contine to pay up to $10 before they seriously downshift. $3 did make them hiccup but they adapted as they will with $4, $5, $6 and so on.
So the plateau to go a bit yet. Of course if we get short in Europe, will we continue to sell to the US at just $75? Brent is high coz the US are buying it for their serious shortfall.
The Nymex is a useless indicator now for that reason.
What happens when we go short?

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