[Kristen]

first off most people here in the us deny peak oil and matt simmons wouldn't be a neocon (new conservsative?) by our standards. I've never recieved health care in Cuba, so its hard to say of their health care is truly unique from the rest of the world. The reason health care is so expensive is because we take so many goddamm pills. They have a pill for everything!

[SILENTTODD]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BILL_THA_PHARMACIZT', ' ')The reality is that absolutely nobody on this board KNOWS for SURE how much "oil" or energy resources are available...they only know what they READ...and if propaganda wasn't convincing it wouldn't work.

[TheDude]

If you want to debate Simmon's sincerity you could see what they think of him at the Oil Drum, where this issue is analyzed in real nuts-and-bolts fashion. You can build a site like that purely from fifth columnists.

You are right to question what we really know about the situation, but the experience of the US in 1973 extrapolated to the world and the present should be plenty enough to worry about what we face, without having to consider every last aspect of the political leanings of the parties involved. Hubbert was right then, will he be right this time as well? I think so; counterarguments that push the peak further into the future really fall flat based on the evidence presented by the likes of Simmons. I've heard it said that he's just trying to create panic to make a killing on investments, though. The data is still there though, and also from Campbell, Deffeyes, etc. Are they all hucksters? Is it all BS? Certainly it's in our best interests to prepare for trouble at any rate.

Even if the USGS is right and oil peaks in 2020 shouldn't we be making the most of the we have?

[julianj]

I've met Matt Simmons, seen him talk, and interviewed him.

I think he is transparently sincere in his beliefs. I think he sees it as his duty to warn people about the coming severe problems.

He's burned his boats with the power hierarchy in the US. If he wanted (more) money and power, he would have kept his mouth shut. He could make far more money from Energy Banking than spending that time writing a book, even one that sold as well as "Twilight".

I call that integrity.

[like_the_dinosaurs]

well, i think that first post has been covered. i wont critize it anymore then it has been.
the problem with PO is there's so many variables that its hard to predict what post peak will look like. one thing is for sure, this unchained economic explosion can only last so long. Hell newton said it centuries ago . You cant get something for nothing.

[greenworm]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')ey, Rockstar:

Why don't you come off of your high horse, eat a much-needed slice of humble pie, and repeat that drivel in english.

Just so us on the short bus can understand. Thanks.

[SevenTen]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('greenworm', 'T')he day I realized how oil is really created was another monumental day of reckoning.

[Boris555]

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who incidentally make good money off their websites and public talks.
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Yeah, last time I saw Aaron he was laughing at me from his 130' yacht and snorting cocaine of the asses of Playboy models.

Well, maybe he was only doing one of those.

[greenworm]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I'), too, have seen the Oil Fairy. I saw her murder Tinkerbell!

But then again, that little glowing tart had it coming.

[Ludi]

Oooooo, how mysterioso!

[BILL_THA_PHARMACIZT]

most organisms on the planet with a few exceptions are programmed to do 2 things :


1)survive

2)populate.

"peak oil" - even if on a global scale is true.... isn't going to stop this. There's untapped energy everywhere ...and if history has taught us anything - it's that humans will find a way to tap into it.