[agmart]

Hitler knew about peak oil and sent the German army south to seize the Azeri oil fields because of it.

The HL of world oil production says it all showing that the world was beyond 50% of URR and peak oil was imminent.

[Alcassin]

Could you read "Mein Kampf" first? Not everything is beause of oil

The next topic will be - Columbus journeys caused by peak oil?

[Tanada]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Alcassin', 'C')ould you "Mein Kampf" first? Not everything is beause of oil

The next topic will be - Columbus journeys caused by peak oil?

[Carlhole]

Germany had coal but no oil.

One of the points that F. William Engdahl raised in his "A Century Of War" is that one of the historically hidden reasons for World War One was the Baghdad - Berlin railway, which greatly alarmed the British.

But that's a different story. And a better one.

[waegari]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('agmart', 'H')itler knew about peak oil and sent the German army south to seize the Azeri oil fields because of it.

[Smudger]

WW II caused by peak oil - er no.

desire to create greater germany
surprise at some countries eg great britain (his cousins?!!) resisting
increase in conflict to achieve European geopolitical dominance
opps running out of oil, people (lets get lots of slaves to help) and equipment
oh bugger there's too many of them and they keep replacing their damaged equipment - the cheats
right we're going to lose lets at least "cleanse" the europe we control
we surrender, don't blame us we were only following orders - what do you mean everyone is responsible for their own actions? hmm actually you've got a point
right lets agree not to allow this to happen again.............

[pup55]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he HL of world oil production says it all showing that the world was beyond 50% of URR and peak oil was imminent.

[bobcousins]

All wars are resource wars, but they are rarely promoted to the public as such.

Remember that land and people are also resources, and you don't always need to occupy a country to control its resources.

Obviously the thread title is plain stupid.

[mrflora]

While Hitler was probably not aware of the Peak Oil Theory, he was well aware of the No Oil Fact - Germany had no domestic source of oil and had to import 100% of its needs.

Many of the strategic decisions of WWII can be explained by oil. Stalin's annexation of Bessarabia put Soviet forces within about 120 miles of the Ploesti oil fields in Romania - Germany's only source of natural oil. This was one of the reasons Hitler decided to go ahead with the invasion of the Soviet Union. The pivotal decision of the entire war may have been made in the late summer/early fall of 1941, when Hitler reoriented the Nazi forces in Russia to attack south into Ukraine, rather than continuing the offensive toward Moscow. The reason for this was to secure resources (including oil) that Germany needed. However, capturing Moscow (as advocated by the generals), Leningrad and associated industrial areas would have disrupted the Soviet Union and *may* have allowed the Germans to accomplish their overall objectives before the entry of the U.S. into the war.

Of course, Rommel advocated a "southern strategy" of attacking the British in Egypt, capturing the Suez Canal and Saudi Arabia, and advancing northward into Iraq.

The Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor was precipitated by a U.S. embargo on exports to Japan including crude oil (the U.S. supplied 7 out of 8 barrels of oil used by the Allies). The Japanese had a choice of a Northern or a Southern Strategy and chose to go south in order to capture the oilfields of Indonesia. The Japanese could perhaps have scored a strategic victory over the U.S. in the Solomon Islands in late 1942, but elected not to use their most powerful battleships in action because they consumed too much oil.

Regards,
M.R.F.

[alpha480v]

WW2 was not caused by peak oil. I believe It was caused by the Versailles treaty. This unjust, harsh document allowed a man like Hitler to come to power.

[Smudger]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mrflora', 'W')hile Hitler was probably not aware of the Peak Oil Theory, he was well aware of the No Oil Fact - Germany had no domestic source of oil and had to import 100% of its needs.

Many of the strategic decisions of WWII can be explained by oil. Stalin's annexation of Bessarabia put Soviet forces within about 120 miles of the Ploesti oil fields in Romania - Germany's only source of natural oil. This was one of the reasons Hitler decided to go ahead with the invasion of the Soviet Union. The pivotal decision of the entire war may have been made in the late summer/early fall of 1941, when Hitler reoriented the Nazi forces in Russia to attack south into Ukraine, rather than continuing the offensive toward Moscow. The reason for this was to secure resources (including oil) that Germany needed. However, capturing Moscow (as advocated by the generals), Leningrad and associated industrial areas would have disrupted the Soviet Union and *may* have allowed the Germans to accomplish their overall objectives before the entry of the U.S. into the war.

Of course, Rommel advocated a "southern strategy" of attacking the British in Egypt, capturing the Suez Canal and Saudi Arabia, and advancing northward into Iraq.

The Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor was precipitated by a U.S. embargo on exports to Japan including crude oil (the U.S. supplied 7 out of 8 barrels of oil used by the Allies). The Japanese had a choice of a Northern or a Southern Strategy and chose to go south in order to capture the oilfields of Indonesia. The Japanese could perhaps have scored a strategic victory over the U.S. in the Solomon Islands in late 1942, but elected not to use their most powerful battleships in action because they consumed too much oil.

Regards,
M.R.F.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('alpha480v', 'W')W2 was not caused by peak oil. I believe It was caused by the Versailles treaty. This unjust, harsh document allowed a man like Hitler to come to power.

[alpha480v]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('alpha480v', 'W')W2 was not caused by peak oil. I believe It was caused by the Versailles treaty. This unjust, harsh document allowed a man like Hitler to come to power.

[dukey]

world war 2 was caused by the bankers.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('alpha480v', '
')The Versailles treaty...created such poverty in Germany that a Strong willed charismatic leader such as Hitler was a shoe-in for the chancellor job.

[alpha480v]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('alpha480v', '
')The Versailles treaty...created such poverty in Germany that a Strong willed charismatic leader such as Hitler was a shoe-in for the chancellor job.

[Plantagenet]

You are wrong again.

The period after WWI in Germany is known as the Weimar Republic. Germany established a democracy and was relatively successful for more than 10 years after WWI, in spite of the Versailles Treaty.

It was only after the Great Depression began in 1929 that the economy collapsed in Germany and Hitler rose to power.

Here's how Wikipedia describes these events:

"Germany's Weimar Republic was hit hard by the depression, as the loans that they were receiving from America to help rebuild their country now stopped. Unemployment soared, especially in larger cities, and the political system veered toward extremism. Hitler's Nazi Party came to power in January 1933."

Cheers!

[Tanada]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '
')In the event, only Germany responded to the bad economic times of the Great Depression by electing an anti-semitic genocidal maniac and waging war on its neighbors.