[keehah]

Our efforts are better spent toward conservation, reforestation, and the development of alternative energy sources; preparing for the sky to fall.

I fixed that statement, it had an extra word and needed a semi-colon.

Or is it that you wish us to prepair for the future, while remaining in denial about it?

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wahoodoggydoo', '
')However, I believe we have the capability to dramatically change current global energy production and consumption to offset the impact of Peak Oil.

[davep]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wahoodoggydoo', '
')However, I believe we have the capability to dramatically change current global energy production and consumption to offset the impact of Peak Oil.

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('davep', ' ')Having "...the capability to dramatically change current global energy production and consumption to offset the impact of Peak Oil" does not equate to actually doing it. Therein lies the rub...

[davep]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', 'I') was trying to address both the "capability" and the actual move towards "change".

I don't see either on the horizon.

[davep]

To clarify:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '�')��Every year, each square kilometre of hot desert receives solar energy equivalent to 1.5 million barrels of oil. Multiplying by the area of deserts world-wide, this is nearly a thousand times the entire current energy consumption of the world.”

- TREC, Trans-Mediterranean Renewable Energy Cooperation

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('davep', ' ')The capability is self-evidently there.

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('davep', 'T')o clarify:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '�')��Every year, each square kilometre of hot desert receives solar energy equivalent to 1.5 million barrels of oil. Multiplying by the area of deserts world-wide, this is nearly a thousand times the entire current energy consumption of the world.”

- TREC, Trans-Mediterranean Renewable Energy Cooperation

[davep]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('davep', ' ')The capability is self-evidently there.

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('davep', ' ')I don't know. If there was a sudden change in the honesty levels of world leaders and they instigated some sort of Manhatten project to harness the solar energy, there's a chance it would work in time. None of us know the exact timings and the short term effects of peak oil (beyond from demand destruction and price rises), so exclaiming that we defintely could or couldn't achieve an infrastructure change strikes me as crystal ball gazing spun as fact.

[davep]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('davep', 'T')o clarify:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '�')��Every year, each square kilometre of hot desert receives solar energy equivalent to 1.5 million barrels of oil. Multiplying by the area of deserts world-wide, this is nearly a thousand times the entire current energy consumption of the world.”

- TREC, Trans-Mediterranean Renewable Energy Cooperation

[davep]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', 'S')o, you see the Hirsch Report as crystal ball gazing? How far off could that assessment be? It assumed a Manhattan style crash program.

10 to 20 years is a pretty broad gaze, I would think.

Or do you see PO not happening for 10 to 20 years?

[davep]

Whether we want to sustain the world's population with such techno-fixes is another question. But if those fixes are genuinely sustainable, then we can say that the carrying capacity of the earth is higher than it would be without them.

[davep]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')o, you see the Hirsch Report as crystal ball gazing?

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('davep', ' ')I don't think using solar energy equates to NPP at all. We would be using an insignificant level of world total insolation. There is a slight risk of temperature rising due to harnessing the energy that may otherwise be lost back to space. This vanishingly small compared to other factors such as melting ice caps.

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('davep', ' ')What measures did it consider in the crash program?

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('davep', 'W')hether we want to sustain the world's population with such techno-fixes is another question. But if those fixes are genuinely sustainable, then we can say that the carrying capacity of the earth is higher than it would be without them.

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('davep', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')o, you see the Hirsch Report as crystal ball gazing?

[davep]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', 'T')his man thinks it wouldn't be "insignificant."

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')imilarly, if humans divert a fraction of solar energy away from the environment to create ordered structures for their own purposes (i.e., houses, appliances, transportation infrastructure, communication systems, etc.), less energy is available to maintain highlyordered dissipative structures in nature. The disturbance of these structures translates into the various environmental impacts that are associated with renewable energy generation.

[davep]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('davep', ' ')What measures did it consider in the crash program?