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Burning Man!!!
Re: Burning Man!!!
by Hawkcreek » Sun 17 Jun 2007, 17:22:07
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Re: Burning Man!!!
by TWilliam » Sun 17 Jun 2007, 18:05:05
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Hawkcreek', 'O')k, I don't know the sample size or composition that led you to those generalizations, but when you assign excessive selfishness to an entire generation I belive you have not selected the proper sample criteria.
Hmmm well... that may be true, but personally I think that the generally deteriorating condition of the world at large (as reflected by information available through this site for example), mainly in service to the Boomer culture, is pretty strong evidence that the accusation is warranted imo.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') am a boomer, I grew up with boomers, and I feel that I know them pretty well. In many cases I feel sorry for them because so many feel trapped in their life circumstances (similiar to many in the younger generations). Many of the choices they made can be seen now as wrong choices, but at the time it felt like life was funnelling their choices down to only a particular few (similiar to some of the posts I have read on this forum).
I can understand the perspective Hawkcreek, but I'm afraid the victim mentality has never gained much traction with me, and that's essentially what you describe. People always have a choice imo.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')e were taught to work 60 hour weeks, buy our families enough "stuff" to make up for never being home, and that you could always trust the nightly news.
Yes, that made for crappy choices, but they were not initiated by selfishness - just ignorance.
Yes well, strictly speaking, ignorance doesn't mean "not knowing", it means ignoring of what is otherwise apparent. Which is why I say those choices continue to be made even when knowing they're poor ones, which imo is selfishness. Most of us know that globalization, for example, is not a good thing, but how many of us never shop at Chinamart (any of them, not just Sam Walton's version)? Any time we do that (and yes, I'm as guilty as the rest, even tho' I try to minimize such purchases), we are making the selfish choice.
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Re: Burning Man!!!
by Hawkcreek » Sun 17 Jun 2007, 18:30:23
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Re: Burning Man!!!
by TWilliam » Sun 17 Jun 2007, 19:00:29
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Hawkcreek', 'I')n that case, your generation has a great advantage in "knowing" what is going on in the world - internet and so on. Everything should be much more apparent to you than the boomers.
It will be interesting to see what you make of your world. But it sounds like you have been saying that you won't get to make many choices because it is already screwed up so bad. Now that is victim mentality.
It will be interesting to see what you make of your world. But it sounds like you have been saying that you won't get to make many choices because it is already screwed up so bad. Now that is victim mentality.
I don't see how acknowledging the political reality of being outnumbered is victim mentality.
We do try to make better choices; for example the primary market for a more holistic approach to health - involving such things as organic foods, nutritional supplementation, naturopathic health-supporting approaches to disease prevention rather than allopathic symptom treatment, and above all personal responsibility for one's health and well-being - is the Xers. Yet the pharmacological industry, driven by the profit-seeking demands of their largely Boomer stockholders, are systematically working to completely eliminate such choices.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')ut so far it looks like your generation is making the same crappy choices. How much of the average Xgen dollar goes to a new gas guzzler or Chinamart. About 104 per cent, from what I have seen.
Hmm... funny, but most of the Cadillac Escalades, dualie pickups and assorted other fuel pigs that I see on the road are occupied by one or sometimes two retirees, and most of the people I see in Wallyworld are greyhairs. Most families I see are driving either minivans (which in their case at least makes sense) or midsize imports. And most of the younger singles I see are in compact or subcompact imports.
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