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parum quoque tardus

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Tue 12 Jun 2007, 18:02:05

Latin for too little, too late. Parum gives us words like poor, impoverished, in fact it comes from an indo-european root pou which means few, little. Some of the diverse words we get from that root are foal, puerile, pony, paraffin, encyclopedia, it's really weird how language works. I won't do the same thing for tardus except to say that we all know about tardy bells. As for quoque, that's the hard part. It's what relates the words and gives meaning to how they are coupled. In this sense it means 'yes and what's more'.
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Re: parum quoque tardus

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Wed 13 Jun 2007, 12:08:28

It makes a good motto for 'mitigation'.
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Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Wed 13 Jun 2007, 13:06:41

nope, far from it.
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Re: parum quoque tardus

Unread postby dinopello » Wed 13 Jun 2007, 14:55:51

Not sure this is the right passage (I ontday eakspay atinlay).


Ut melius, quidquid erit, pati!
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Re: parum quoque tardus

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Wed 13 Jun 2007, 17:22:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dinopello', ' ')(I ontday eakspay atinlay).
This is funny. I spent a couple years out of respect and desire to learn Latin. I didn't get it down, unfortunately. I've just got it in bits and pieces.
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Re: parum quoque tardus

Unread postby TheDude » Wed 13 Jun 2007, 22:02:51

OlfI trolfied tolfo lolfearn Golfermolfan olfin holfigh scholfool. Nolfo solfuch lolfuck.

There are lots of sites with witty Latin quotes like my sig. Dunno about your choice, PMS, how the hell do you pronounce "quoque"? People had a helluva time initially with something as simple as "Ahmadinejad."

How about:

Ad vitam paramus - We are preparing for life

Amicus humani generis - A friend of the human race (philanthropist)

Liberate te ex inferis - Save yourself from hell

Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur - The world wants to be deceived, so let it be deceived!

Apudne te vel me? - Your place or mine?

Luke sum ipse patrem te - Luke, I am your father. (Star Wars)

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Re: parum quoque tardus

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Wed 13 Jun 2007, 23:01:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheDude', ' ')Dunno about your choice, PMS, how the hell do you pronounce "quoque"?
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Re: parum quoque tardus

Unread postby jboogy » Thu 14 Jun 2007, 19:10:50

Apropos for the neocons , veni,vedi,vici. not sure of the spelling
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Re: parum quoque tardus

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Thu 14 Jun 2007, 19:49:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jboogy', ' ')veni,vedi,vici. not sure of the spelling
forget the spelling, it's the pronunciation that threw me. It was pronounced 'waynee, waydee, weekee'.
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Re: parum quoque tardus

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Thu 14 Jun 2007, 20:33:01

btw, I got into a bit of a tiff with Conn Iggulden, the British author of the popular series of novels about Julius Caesar, at his web site. I maintained that his novels grossly misrepresented the characters of Brutus and Cato the Younger. Which he did of course and I was absolutely right. His response was to first say that I don't know about the problems of an author and the choices that must be made, and then to lock the thread where we were discussing it. Touchy Brit.
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Re: parum quoque tardus

Unread postby Carlhole » Thu 14 Jun 2007, 21:35:55

Wtoiuht fhrehtr eolairotban, it is dsomnetblrae taht the enoxpanitel pshae of the iurisdntal gotwrh wchih has datomined haumn atviticy dirung the lsat cpuloe of cirteneus is dwaniwrg to a cosle. - M. Knig Hbeubrt
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Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Thu 14 Jun 2007, 22:02:34

ok, this is the game. gldfljktrltjldlk;s;s;lf;ljf;ljf;ljdl;kjsljkhljrhkjr.
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Re: parum quoque tardus

Unread postby jboogy » Fri 15 Jun 2007, 11:48:09

PMS, I try reed you last werds on post but wen i reedded it i feeld eelektrik pathwayz in my hed shorted out like old fraid wyrez...........oh,no bludd iz squrtiing out noze, summone hepp me!
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Re: parum quoque tardus

Unread postby TheDude » Fri 15 Jun 2007, 18:35:30

This is getting like the UN. What is that, Uniwese?
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Re: parum quoque tardus

Unread postby Carlhole » Fri 15 Jun 2007, 19:11:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'o')k, this is the game. gldfljktrltjldlk;s;s;lf;ljf;ljf;ljdl;kjsljkhljrhkjr.


I give up.
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Unread postby Carlhole » Fri 15 Jun 2007, 19:23:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', 'W')toiuht fhrehtr eolairotban, it is dsomnetblrae taht the enoxpanitel pshae of the iurisdntal gotwrh wchih has datomined haumn atviticy dirung the lsat cpuloe of cirteneus is dwaniwrg to a cosle. - M. Knig Hbeubrt


Ndobdy siad atinynhg auobt my elireair psot, so tihs is a hnit.
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Re: parum quoque tardus

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Fri 15 Jun 2007, 20:15:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'o')k, this is the game. gldfljktrltjldlk;s;s;lf;ljf;ljf;ljdl;kjsljkhljrhkjr.


I give up.
Oh don't be like that. I posted this thread because I thought it was a cool Latin phrase to answer to all the 'relocalize' and 'mitigation' folks. The 'Oil Depletion Protocols' and all that. Let me ask you something, Carlhole: don't you find this current situation to be utterly absurd?
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Re: parum quoque tardus

Unread postby Baldwin » Fri 15 Jun 2007, 20:49:56

Then there is the phrase we should all keep in mind:

Remember, thou art mortal!

Oh and PMS, you look remarkably like a history teacher at my Catholic (Marianist) High school on Long Island, NY. Your picture and even glasses are identical. (Your picture pops up occassionally on the peak oil is you! picture thing on the left side of the screen.)
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Re: parum quoque tardus

Unread postby Carlhole » Fri 15 Jun 2007, 20:58:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'O')h don't be like that. I posted this thread because I thought it was a cool Latin phrase to answer to all the 'relocalize' and 'mitigation' folks. The 'Oil Depletion Protocols' and all that. Let me ask you something, Carlhole: don't you find this current situation to be utterly absurd?


Yes. But unlike the Doomers, I don't pretend to know how the future will unfold.

It's fashionable here on PO.com to be something of a Luddite and to trash technology and all that. Most of them just seem to be endlessly contributing the tired, puerile idea that arrogant humanity will self-destruct and it will be a very good thing for the Earth and its ecosystems. I sort of agree that a depopulation would be desirable.

But even when you start talking in terms of new human-environment equilibria, you are still met with round condemnation by people on these boards who DO know the future beyond any shadow of a doubt whatsoever and the future is "The End Of The World, GODAMMIT, No Ifs Ands Or Buts!"

The go-it-aloners seem very misguided in their responses to the threat of PO, because any self-sufficient homesteads will simply be overrun, given the conditions they are preparing for. Haven't they ever read any early European history?

But I have a great deal of respect for human inventiveness. I look at Einstein's famous equation E = MC*C which represents an awful lot of energy. It's been estimated that 6 pounds of sunlight falls on the Earth every day, just to give you an idea of the quantities of energy implied by that formula. And it has not been disproven that converting the energy in matter to direct use is out of reach or beyond the intelligence of human beings.

I view Peak Oil as a tremendous threat that will have to be dealt with on pretty much a world-wide basis. It has tremendous political and military implications - which is why I concentrate on energy geopolitics, the Iraq War, 911, etc.

So I'm in favor of real leadership that galvinizes and coordinates the world's best and brightest to develop solutions to the looming crisis. It may turn out that there will have to be a de-population of some degree. I don't know - I don't pretend to know the future.

I just look at the the developing crisis and watch it play out. I've reached an age where I'm sort of philosophical about life and death - you know? I've kind of fully experienced the Being-Carlhole thing whether I kiss it goodbye next year or 30 years from now.

Bit of pain, bit of fear, what the fuck...
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