[threadbear]

Interesting article. Describes schizophrenia as inhabiting an area on a spiritual continuum, rather than being part of a clearly sick/not sick polarity.

The spiritually dead are all around us, all the way from file clerks to CEO's destroying the planet, without a thought or inkling of what they are doing. They are not considered mentally ill, but this kind of spiritual deadening, I think, should actually be considered a kind of pathology. This is what we're fighting now. There is a battle raging "in the heavens", for lack of better terms. It's time to reappraise mental health, for the benefit of the planet and for all those poor souls sleeping under bridges and in open doorways.


" I think that awakening from “normal conscious’ runs a scale between schizophrenia and mysticism and each of us has a gravity to a particular point on that scale. But throughout the duration of an awakening we may sometimes be closer to the schizophrenic end of the scale and sometimes closer to the Mystic end of the scale depending on how stable and adaptable the rational faculty is at the time"

http://biologyofkundalini.com/article.p ... izophrenia

[katkinkate]

I think it was Joseph Campbell who said, "The schizophrenic is drowning in the waters in which the mystic swims"

My sister has this problem. I understand it as the boundaries that keeps the dreaming self asleep while you're awake break down and you have dreams/hallucinations while awake. The real problem is that it is difficult for sufferers to see the difference between 'reality' and the dream and their reaction to their 'nightmares' can really freak other people out. The mystic uses fasting, meditation, sweat lodges and sometimes drugs to achieve a similar state intentionally, but they know what they are seeing are visions and not reality.

[threadbear]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('katkinkate', 'I') think it was Joseph Campbell (philosopher) who said, "The schizophrenic is drowning in the waters in which the mystic swims"

My sister has this problem. I understand it as the boundaries that keeps the dreaming self asleep while you're awake break down and you have dreams/hallucinations while awake. The real problem is that it is difficult for sufferers to see the difference between 'reality' and the dream and their reaction to their 'nightmares' can really freak other people out. The mystic uses fasting, meditation, sweat lodges and sometimes drugs to achieve a similar state intentionally, but they know what they are seeing are visions and not reality.

[Kingcoal]

Hmm, threadbear, so you take this kind of thing seriously?

[threadbear]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Kingcoal', 'H')mm, threadbear, so you take this kind of thing seriously?

[TWilliam]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'I') have the type of brain suited to investigating this kind of subject. If you are a materialist, left brained engineering type, you wouldn't and probably shouldn't.

[dissimulo]

Holy cow - did Raphael write that article? I think you'd have to be schizophrenic to feel you could make any sense out of all that crazy jargon.

[threadbear]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dissimulo', 'H')oly cow - did Raphael write that article? I think you'd have to be schizophrenic to feel you could make any sense out of all that crazy jargon.

[uNkNowN ElEmEnt]

I think there is a strong link between the two. I think the measure of mental health should be not in how a person relates to society but in how well they relate to themselves. In simplest terms are they happy or not.

If they are hurting themselves then they need our help. If they manage in their own weirded out world and do not hurt or harm themselves or anyone else then fine. I think we medicate because of fear. Our fear specifically.

The field of psychiatry has never "cured" anyone. It can not tell if someone is going to be a psycho or weed out the killers among us. And even if it did we wouldn't weed out kids in the early stages and fix them. We've tried but it isn't working. Its useless and IMO a counsellor who helps people navigate their own world, making peace with their inner demons/outer world would have more use.