[max_power29]

I can't afford nor do I have the time right now to establish a homestead, but I still think it is prudent to have some supplies and weapons in order to at least not go down like a bitch or cattle ala the Virginia Tech shootings and Katrina Superdome inhabitants.

Have you seen refuge of last resort? The people in that documentary survived some pretty harsh stuff way more comfortably than the masses by being savvy and making smart/lucky decisions.

[gnm]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aaron', 'D')on't fear the consequences of Peak Oil... fear how your fellow humans will react to it.

[SILENTTODD]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aaron', 'I') recently lost a Long post ranting about Prepers actually. I contend that any solution that does not include the vast unaware masses, is really no solution at all. Do we really expect that any of us will be immune to the social calamity of depletion?

How will you avoid the economic consequences? Or the military consequences? Or environmental? You won't. All these will visit you... seek you out. You can run... but you can't hide. Don't fear the consequences of Peak Oil... fear how your fellow humans will react to it.

[Battle_Scarred_Galactico]

What I do fear is that so called “doomers” like Matthew Savinar aren’t screaming loud enough!


I'd say many are, however I think its' pretty clear people don't WANT to know about this.

[manu]

It's funny that in one part of the world some people are seeing the cliff and another part of the world (like China and India) they are joining the lemmings racing for the cliff. Powerdown has not even entered the mind of these lemmings. Dont stop and think, just run with the masses.

[PhebaAndThePilgrim]

Good morning, from Pheba, from the farm:
PStarr, my hubby prides himself on how long he can make a 13 gallon plastic trash bag last. We recycle just about everything. What can't be recycled gets burned in a burn barrle. Leftovers get fed to whatever will eat them. Bones go into the wood stove.
So, what goes into the trash can in the kitchen, is stuff that must be burned. No food, no bones, etc. My hubby can make that plastic trash bag liner last for months and months and months.
He makes a game out of it.
I personally believe that the solution to our Peak Oil problems lay in the secret of Scottish genes. My hubby is a Scot.
We have been able to pay off a 15 year mortgage in 7 years because my hubby is a Scot. And, I don't work outside of the home!
Shortly after hubby and I were first married I decided to clean out the icebox. We were married in 1997. I found a salad dressing in the icebox that had expired in 1987. Hubby wouldn't let me throw it away. He said it was still good. Ditto for the horseradish. He said that it had mellowed.
Some time later I came home and saw my hubby running a huge bottle of cheap pancake syrup through a sieve. I asked him what he was doing. He said that he was filtering out the little white balls of mold. The pancake syrup had fermented and smelled more like alcohol than pancake syrup. I threw it away. Broke the man's heart.
He takes his lunch to work and doesn't waste anything, not anything.
A lot of the material we used to build our home came from trash dumpsters on his job sites (he is a carpenter).
Scots frugality is not a joke. My hubby is living genetic proof. We need to isolate that gene and innoculate the world with it.
Duct tape may be a joke, but my hubby scrounges, reuses, repairs and makes do on our farm.
What the world needs is more Scots frugalilty. My hubby is not greedy or selfish. He would literally give someone else his shirt if he saw they needed it more than he did. He donates to charity, and shares food with others. We donate to the local food bank. My hubby just hates waste, and will go to some ridiculous Scots induced lengths to avoid it.
Have a great day, Pheba

[gnm]

Thrift is good, but eating/saving questionable food is a good way to lose health and money and is in no way thrifty. Just dangerous. For instance in a survival situation drinking questionable water will likely finish you off unless you expect rescue in less than 24 hours and you could have made it that long without the water anyways. dysentery or God knows what else will just complicate your situation that much more!

-G

[PhebaAndThePilgrim]

Good day from Pheba, from the farm:
If I ate half of what my husband ate, I would die. He has developed an amazing resilience. He is an extremely hardy soul.
I will probably not make it through a dieoff scenario. He would.
Pheba.

[Pops]

Funny, I just posted something about; it is time to either get used to less or get more while you still can.

So lets review:
ZPG won’t work.
Conservation won’t work
Alternative fuels won’t work.
Learning to shoot won’t work.
Making more money won’t work.
Learning to live on less won’t work.
Learning to do for yourself won’t work.

So how will spreading the word about Peak Oil to the vast unaware work?

Silly question, because we know from experience that doesn't work.

In fact, how many of you reading this thread, supposedly the minute aware, have attempted any actual change in your life because of PO - aside from taping on the keys?

Oh, I forgot; that won't work.

Nevermind.

[Sheb]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', 'S')o how will spreading the word about Peak Oil to the vast unaware work?

Silly question, because we know from experience that doesn't work.

[Sheb]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('IanC', '
')As a bike commuter, I can't WAIT!!!

-IanC

[Battle_Scarred_Galactico]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aaron', 'I') recently lost a Long post ranting about Prepers actually. --snip-- You can run... but you can't hide. Don't fear the consequences of Peak Oil... fear how your fellow humans will react to it.