[Gazzatrone]

.....yet another paranoid, "World's out to get me" with a finger over the trigger. This time with proper weapons at his disposal?

Putin it About?

[OZ_DOC]

Yeh right, when the US or UK point a array of nuclear ballistic missiles at someone else its a "defensive shield", if anyone should dare to do point one back its madness or terrorism.

[Gazzatrone]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Gideon', 'T')he older I get, the more I find blind patriotism to be vile. It is a scourge on mankind, and it is the juvenile emotion that allows reckless and pugnacious leaders to goad a nation into war.
This is classic. The US wants to put a "missile shield" in eastern Europe to "protect the Czech Republic from North Korea". And dumb f---ing idiot patriots take that at face value. "Yep, we'ze gots to protect the world from terrists." Jesus, wake the f--- up.

The US wants missiles in Europe, whether it's called a "shield" or not, so it can extend its tenuous control over the Middle East and hold back the Russians and Chinese from attempting to intervene. If that's not clear as day to you, take off the GD patriot goggles.

Putin's position is reasonable. What if the Russians wanted to put a missle shield in Canada? Or in the Dominican Republic? Are you f---ing kidding me? Hmmm? Would you stand up then and say that the US is a trigger happy paranoid? Seriously, stop being such a gullible patridiot.

[Zardoz]

He has every reason to be "paranoid". This is yet another outrageous, hostile, provocative act perpetrated by the rogue regime we have in Washington.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')r Putin said neither Iran nor North Korea had the weapons that the system was intended to shoot down.

"We are being told the anti-missile defence system is targeted against something that does not exist. Doesn't it seem funny to you?" he asked.

[Eli]

Calling Putin reasonable is generous in my estimation.

What amazes me is that people refuse to see him as a danger. The guy has his critics thrown out windows, cut of ng to Europe and has done nothing but consolidated control ever since he has taken office.

A couple more years into the energy crisis and he will be give all of Europe the high hard one. Enjoy.

[Bas]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Eli', 'C')alling Putin reasonable is generous in my estimation.
What amazes me is that people refuse to see him as a danger. The guy has his critics thrown out windows, cut of ng to Europe and has done nothing but consolidated control ever since he has taken office.
A couple more years into the energy crisis and he will be give all of Europe the high hard one. Enjoy.

[Eli]

Yup. Bas you are right

He will either begrudgingly run for a third term "I really, really don't want to be president again but if the people insist..."

Or You can bet one of his lackeys will be elected and he will still retain control from behind the scenes.

People used to say that Bush was going to run for a third term, such crap. Bush is one of the most hated people in the US right now even Republicans think he is a tool.

Old Pooty poot on the other hand is well liked by a lot of people and has all the power to do what he wants at any time.

People keep making excuses for what he does, he is really kind of a frightening guy IMHO. Ruthless cold, intelligent, unbelievably powerful former KBG agent a real teddy bear of guy.

[roccman]

Jay Hanson is to be proved right.

We will have a full blown nuclear war before the fat lady sings.

[Tyler_JC]

As far as I'm concerned, Putin can go to hell. We need the missile shield for a non-military purpose. Namely, shooting down asteroids.

You've seen the documentaries. Do you have any idea of the threat posed by these 5-mile-long projectiles of death from space??

[roccman]

"Namely, shooting down asteroids. "
Bwhahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahhahahahhhahahhah! Dude r u serious!!! When have we ever shot down an asteroid?
(tick tock tick tock)

Ok never. And so in our monkey wisdom we KNOW that putting missles around Russia is the perfect spot. Holly shit bro...now I have heard it all!!! Shooting down asteroids OMFingG!!!!!!

I needed a laugh bro...that is too funny. Shoo... ot... D...o...w....n
Asteroids!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Spit coffee all (wipeing tear now) over my monitor.... Holy Fuck!!! Tooo funny bro...too funny!!!
Asteroids.... Shoot... like bang bang!!!

[paimei01]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Eli', 'C')alling Putin reasonable is generous in my estimation.

What amazes me is that people refuse to see him as a danger. The guy has his critics thrown out windows, cut of ng to Europe and has done nothing but consolidated control ever since he has taken office.

A couple more years into the energy crisis and he will be give all of Europe the high hard one. Enjoy.

[Gazzatrone]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('roccman', 'A')nd so in our monkey wisdom we KNOW that putting missles around Russia is the perfect spot. Holly shit bro...now I have heard it all! Shooting down asteroids OMFingG!

[Bas]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('paimei01', 'A') country does what it wants with the oil it has. If Europe is so stupid to not try to escape from the oil dependence that is what they deserve.

[paimei01]

I live in Romania, here we import half of our oil from Russia, when they stopped the supply to Germany, because of problems in Belarus i think, every tv station here said that the Russians use their oil to control Europe.
The same ideea of "blackmail" was on Euronews.
I don't like Russia very much, but people should realize they have no right to another country's oil, if they dont want to sell it, or decide to sell it to somebody else, that is it, there is no more oil

[Bas]

Though I have heard plenty about the growing dependence of Europe on Russian Oil and Gas in the mainstream media, I never heard about blackmail apart from the mouth of the last dictator of Europe, mr Lukashenko of Belarus.

Besides that, oil is a global commodity; the US for instance can boycott Iranian oil, but it's nothing more than a token boycott, as Iran will just sell to Asia or Europe for the global market price; so if russia decides to not sell to europe anymore (which I never heard uttered) all it will do is reroute the supply lines, Europe will still get it's oil against marketprices.

The only thing that russia or other producing nations really can do is stop producing and force up the prices worldwide, they can't single out anyone. And they won't do that as they are as addicted to the oil-revenue as western societies are on using the stuff.

PS I can imagine there is still alot of leftover resentment in Eastern Europe from the 45 years of Russian/Soviet defacto rule and the local media playing on those feelings.