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Creeped out

Postby zoidberg » Wed 30 May 2007, 23:27:21

I'm starting to get a little creeped out. Now I've read the oil drum as much as anyone else here I think so I'm not at all surprised by the news items that flow around me. Nonetheless its been
a mostly theoretical exercise as we've yet to start dealing with a permanently declining oil production scenario.

Yet though....

A couple DJs on the radio were bemoaning a possible tequila shortage due to corn production for ethanol crowding out other crops. They thought this was funny as they love drinking I guess, not to sure why really. What I heard was an opening shot of a deadly food vs fuel debate.

The newspapers are getting lots of little stories about saving energy, why even my mother in law who lives to consume found a story about reducing her carbon footprint, no doubt she thought it was cute. The fact that she would even bother to read it is enough to tell me a truly mass awareness is rising, which tells me the peak's problems are close.

Manitoba Hydro is building a cutting edge new building with many energy saving features(including good passive solar and geothermal heat). They are putting out a low key PR campaign to tell people about it, along with their usual save energy so we can export it jazz. Why would they consider this to be a good PR move? Again that unnerving mass awareness thing. (they're also running ads about wind power, and considering a name change to Manitoba Clean Energy or something like that)

Our federal government is running a campaign about its ecoACTION campaign.

A story in the oil drum linked to a story by a Toronto paper floating the idea of strategic petroleum reserve for Eastern Canada.

Some bland newstory was trying to pin high gasoline prices on a whole raft of factors like environmentalists blocking refineries, terrorists in Nigeria, possible Hurricanes, anything except of course the fact that refineries are maxed out because oil companies are unwilling to invest more because they dont feel they can procure enough crude to them when they finish to be profitable.

I guess when I hear the mainstream media talking about things that are old hat here then I start thinking that future 10-20 years down the road talked about here are more likely to come as well.

I guess I'll hold onto the hope that a rising mass awareness can help to make future sacrifices less problematic(thats a euphemism for less rioting and revolutions). Misery loves company of course ;).


Has anyone else been hearing these types of things more and more often?
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Re: Creeped out

Postby mlit » Wed 30 May 2007, 23:32:03

Yes, I'm not sure if it's just me listening more for that but it sure seems that way. Most of them seem untruthful and says no real problems no need to worry we can soon return to our usual selves. Becuase of our vast history of successes failure is no longer a possibility. Economics say we can switch products easily when one goes up in price.
so I'm drinking and stockpiling vodka as something tells me we havn't beaten the system yet.
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Re: Creeped out

Postby NEOPO » Wed 30 May 2007, 23:48:28

The whole Zionist thing really creeps me out especially how some people are incapable of talking about it without resorting to ad hom or other tactic to dismiss it.

The Protocols of the Elders of Zion

Creepy because what was written in the protocols is all coming true.

Do not take my word for it, read them yourself and wonder why.

The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion Explained

I am not a bible believer yet here is a link to the protocols in their entirety:
THE PROTOCOLS

Creepy huh? yeah and it all seems to be occurring...

Now imagine someone unable to even consider the protocols as anything but some sort of forgery etc etc... creepy huh?
I have nothing against Jewish people but I dont think I like these Zionist people, whoever they are 8)
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Re: Creeped out

Postby threadbear » Wed 30 May 2007, 23:59:58

It's ominous. The last time I started getting this feeling was about a year before 911. I asked other people if they felt it. "Feel what?" "WAR!" It's as if you can feel the rumble of drumbeats echoing back from the future. I feel this way now, again, but this time it's more a feeling of impending chaos.

Litttle things like you mention, Zoidberg-- indicating a strong shift in energy awareness. I also notice the commentators on msnbc aren't trying to put lipstick on a pig. Their faces show they're looking at and seeing something much worse than a pig, more like a massive warthog, and the spin just doesn't come as easily.
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Re: Creeped out

Postby mmasters » Thu 31 May 2007, 00:09:41

I feel it coming too. I'm sure this time is going to be a real circus.
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Re: Creeped out

Postby zoidberg » Thu 31 May 2007, 00:17:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', 'T')he whole Zionist thing really creeps me out especially how some people are incapable of talking about it without resorting to ad hom or other tactic to dismiss it.

The Protocols of the Elders of Zion

Creepy because what was written in the protocols is all coming true.

Do not take my word for it, read them yourself and wonder why.

The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion Explained

I am not a bible believer yet here is a link to the protocols in their entirety:
THE PROTOCOLS

Creepy huh? yeah and it all seems to be occurring...

Now imagine someone unable to even consider the protocols as anything but some sort of forgery etc etc... creepy huh?
I have nothing against Jewish people but I dont think I like these Zionist people, whoever they are 8)


Oh, NEOPO. I'll agree with you 100% the things the Protocols describe are indeed creepy and dangerous. They are fake however. I would also add they represent a hopeless fantasy of control freaks. A protocols type conspiracy is the last thing we need to worry about. Everythings going more local man. Don't you see? Local power production, food production, a more spread out populace.

Neo-Feudalism way of the future.
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Re: Creeped out

Postby NEOPO » Thu 31 May 2007, 00:36:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('zoidberg', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', 'T')he whole Zionist thing really creeps me out especially how some people are incapable of talking about it without resorting to ad hom or other tactic to dismiss it.

The Protocols of the Elders of Zion

Creepy because what was written in the protocols is all coming true.

Do not take my word for it, read them yourself and wonder why.

The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion Explained

I am not a bible believer yet here is a link to the protocols in their entirety:
THE PROTOCOLS

Creepy huh? yeah and it all seems to be occurring...

Now imagine someone unable to even consider the protocols as anything but some sort of forgery etc etc... creepy huh?
I have nothing against Jewish people but I dont think I like these Zionist people, whoever they are 8)


Oh, NEOPO. I'll agree with you 100% the things the Protocols describe are indeed creepy and dangerous. They are fake however. I would also add they represent a hopeless fantasy of control freaks. A protocols type conspiracy is the last thing we need to worry about. Everythings going more local man. Don't you see? Local power production, food production, a more spread out populace.

Neo-Feudalism way of the future.


Poor soul, are you unaware that a new world order is forming right before our eyes or are you welcoming it in your own subservient sort of way?

I believe america is as close to a fascist state as it ever was and I could provide hundred's if not 1000's of very compelling linkage to back this up. Do you disagree?

I can see how religion, science and politic's have been used to manipulate the mind's of the people for quite some time, can you not see this?

Lastly is the term "control freaks". I truly believe many things that seem "accidental" or as "deliberate attacks" are nothing more then false flag operations and I would also like to believe that anyone without their head in some sand could also see this.

All of this and more is mentioned in the protocols regardless of its origin it seems someone is using it perfectly.

Creepy.

fg - Relax!!! Who can relax!!!?!?!? ok maybe you are right :)
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Re: Creeped out

Postby threadbear » Thu 31 May 2007, 01:00:39

Zoiberg, Neopo, Imho, it'll be both...something like feudalism under Roman power.

It'll be a circus, alright, with machine elves, no doubt. :lol:
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Re: Creeped out

Postby zoidberg » Thu 31 May 2007, 01:10:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'Z')oiberg, Neopo, Imho, it'll be both...something like feudalism under Roman power.

It'll be a circus, alright, with machine elves, no doubt. :lol:


Except the machine elves will be blasted into space because rockets can carry more stuff without life support.

Assuming peak oil gets worked out.
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Re: Creeped out

Postby zoidberg » Thu 31 May 2007, 01:12:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', '
')I believe america is as close to a fascist state as it ever was and I could provide hundred's if not 1000's of very compelling linkage to back this up. Do you disagree?


Nope. Not long after that is disintegration. Many nation states will suffer it. Some will disappear. World's changing man. Ideas that might've been good in 1900 are out of vogue. A casualty of time.
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Re: Creeped out

Postby jupiters_release » Thu 31 May 2007, 01:14:36

The palpability is starting to get to me too. Nothing describes what it feels like visioning the post-peak process thats accelerating directly at all of us.
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Re: Creeped out

Postby greenworm » Thu 31 May 2007, 01:28:56

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')hey are fake however.


Concerning the protocols, of course. Hearsay, strike this from the court. Unless you provide the proof, visual, not theoretical. Please provide a link to where I can read the document from which the protocols were plagiarized from. You know the one that appeared 33 years before the protocols. :lol:
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Re: Creeped out

Postby nella » Thu 31 May 2007, 19:47:00

I've been noticing alot of little things too. Commericals on tv, of allthings, from the energy companies talking alternate sources and how they are investing, developing them. I see alot of these. An insert in my electric bill offering green options and offers to evaluate my home for energy efficiency.

Since gas went upin the US, it's not unusual to see more articles about how to save gas etc.
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Re: Creeped out

Postby Zardoz » Thu 31 May 2007, 20:49:59

Has anybody else noticed what seems to be a frantic, desperate advertising campaign on the part of almost all the automakers to sell their biggest SUVs and pickups? They seem to be pushing the hell out of them lately, obviously in an attempt to stem their downward sales trend in the face of rising gasoline prices.

It's as if they're trying to move as many of the big, highly-profitable beasts as possible before their inevitable extinction.
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Re: Creeped out

Postby NEOPO » Thu 31 May 2007, 21:17:52

It is easier to enslave a people that wish to remain free then it is to free a people who wish to remain enslaved.
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Re: Creeped out

Postby mmasters » Thu 31 May 2007, 21:50:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', '[')url=http://youtube.com/watch?v=zguxl2Q-OCc]Chase Manhattan Commercial[/url]

:lol: free.........

The rolling stones sure sold out didn't they.
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Re: Creeped out

Postby skiwi » Thu 31 May 2007, 22:42:46

They sold their souls for rock and roll didn't they

Oh well. Cabbages, caulis and broccili to plant
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Re: Creeped out

Postby zoidberg » Thu 31 May 2007, 23:28:30

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('skiwi', '[')url=http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7334165509680783347]They sold their souls for rock and roll didn't they[/url]

Oh well. Cabbages, caulis and broccili to plant


Heh the documentary is ridiculous. Kids dont listen to angry music and become angry. They already ARE angry and choose to listen to music that matches it. I didnt see the documentary exploring why they could've been angry in the first place. Those columbine kids didnt grow up in a vacuum - they grew up beside their victims...

hah!

To tie it back to this thread, an increase in unpredictable violence is sure to increase as the stresses caused by lower available energy manifest themselves as class tensions, unemployment, starvation and war over remaining resources. We're not going to see headlines about peak oil directly very often, but its manifestations. This is why I'm 'creeped out' because the headlines match what the symptoms of lower overall wealth and steadily increasing population would be. The next thing to look for is an acceleration of this trend.

Fortunately we're still in the early stages and its still at the level of dj's laughing about tequila shortages.

No-one will be laughing when its bread shortages.
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Re: Creeped out

Postby Eli » Fri 01 Jun 2007, 00:19:51

I have to agree with Neopo on the whole New World order forming before are eyes.

The planned superhighway from Canada to Mexico is creepy.

The fact that all the most powerful Republicans and Dems are all hot and bothered to grant amnesty to illegals is creepy. While the vast majority of citizens are against it.

Creepy too how Qatar ran out of diesel fuel because they are making so much money off the oil they have got they are outgrowing their own supply. It is like a snake eating its tail.
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