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Re: Top 10 net oil importing and exporting countries.

Unread postby Bas » Wed 30 May 2007, 08:09:49

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tanada', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('madrid', 'B')ut those countries together comprise over 500 million people, whereas the US comprises 300 million.


Show me the census figures for those 11 countries listed.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_Union_member_states_by_population

a total of 496 million. Turkey has 71 million people in it.
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Re: Top 10 net oil importing and exporting countries.

Unread postby Tanada » Wed 30 May 2007, 13:09:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Bas', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tanada', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('madrid', 'B')ut those countries together comprise over 500 million people, whereas the US comprises 300 million.


Show me the census figures for those 11 countries listed.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_Union_member_states_by_population

a total of 496 million. Turkey has 71 million people in it.


Using only the 11 countries named in the earlier post plus turkey I get a figure of 455,827,209
That gives 10,836,400/Europe+Turkey=.024 bbl/person/day and for the USA 12,102,000/301,789,000= .04bbl/person/day.

No matter how you slice it the fact remains these major European countries are a major importing group.
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Re: Top 10 net oil importing and exporting countries.

Unread postby davep » Wed 30 May 2007, 14:35:41

I don't see how you can extrapolate oil consumption from these figures. Oil produced and consumed internally (e.g. by the USA) doesn't show up on the figures.
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Re: Top 10 net oil importing and exporting countries.

Unread postby Bas » Wed 30 May 2007, 17:58:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('davep', 'I') don't see how you can extrapolate oil consumption from these figures. Oil produced and consumed internally (e.g. by the USA) doesn't show up on the figures.


very true, also Europe also sends about a million barrels worth of refined to the US (probably a fair share of that coming from Netherland)
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Re: Top 10 net oil importing and exporting countries.

Unread postby Tanada » Wed 30 May 2007, 19:26:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('davep', 'I') don't see how you can extrapolate oil consumption from these figures. Oil produced and consumed internally (e.g. by the USA) doesn't show up on the figures.


I thought it was perfectly clear from the context that I was referring to oil imports, sorry for any confusion on that point.

If you want to talk about those kind of totals you have to add in Norway and possibly a couple others to the list, I thought 11 European states were sufficient. Taken as a whole most of the oil exported from Norway ends up being imported in other European countries, which certainly should fit your requirement of internal consumption. That would add about 3.4 Mbbl/day to the European total while adding USA internal production adds about 5.5Mbbl/day. I tried to keep things as simple as possible (The KISS principle) by using just the data from the first page listing the top 20 countries in each catagory, Norway is not an importer at all so only shows up on the export list.

By the same token every country you add to the European list adds demand below the top 20 threshold that becomes increasingly difficult to find and corolate accurately. You are welcome to look up all the figures and do the math and post the results if you think my method was inaccurate or misleading.
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Re: Top 10 net oil importing and exporting countries.

Unread postby Tanada » Wed 30 May 2007, 19:28:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Bas', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('davep', 'I') don't see how you can extrapolate oil consumption from these figures. Oil produced and consumed internally (e.g. by the USA) doesn't show up on the figures.


very true, also Europe also sends about a million barrels worth of refined to the US (probably a fair share of that coming from Netherland)


So do some math and post your own results.
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Re: Top 10 net oil importing and exporting countries.

Unread postby sirrom » Thu 31 May 2007, 08:46:30

we need stu to do another list
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