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Re: No jobs for US citizens without Homeland Security approv

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Tue 29 May 2007, 05:18:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('I_Like_Plants', 'A')tlas has to shrug.

I hate Ayn Rand, but she got some things right - when the proletariat sees what a con society is, they simply stop working. Shrugging involves working little, making very little, paying little or no taxes, using local trade and local currencies as much as possible, etc.

Enough of us do this, we bring the Machine down. Simple as that. How many of you are willing to give up your SUVs and bigscreens though?

North Korean measures would be applied by authorities as response, if such action gone widespread.
Resistance is futile.
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Re: No jobs for US citizens without Homeland Security approv

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Tue 29 May 2007, 05:27:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('perdition79', 'T')he key to maintaining the status quo is to keep the proliteriat from thinking at all. That's where George Orwell and George W. Bush got it right.

You're right. Our SUV's, our big screen TV's and all the other imperialist trinkets are distractions, keep people chasing a carrot called the American Dream® which will forever be slightly out of reach. We do need to kill our televisions to become free of the machine.

That wont do. Your TV, IT etc will be gradually eroded by PO, but this will only help you to realise, how hopeless your position really is.
You will observe a gradual but relentless transition of society into post modern feudal slavery.
Currently used gloves will come out...
You cannot stop it. Whatever you will try to do to prevent it, you are going to be defeated. That is simply a future of collective American asses (and most of other asses as well...).
Your best strategy would be attempt to make it into master class (why not to try, few will certainly make it...), or at least to become a high ranking servant.
Popular uprising will achieve nothing.
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Re: No jobs for US citizens without Homeland Security approv

Unread postby evilgenius » Tue 29 May 2007, 06:09:31

Either get the hell out, as I have, or go and participate in the party selection process. No amount of consumer action will work because it lacks the necessary organization to implement (or construct beyond complaint) any will. Only participation at the caucus or such level (bring your friends along and get them to vote for you) will see countersayers get any results. This is because the government has fallen so far down the path of isolation that it has both deluded itself as to what is good for the people and what it is that constitutes the very people themselves.
When it comes down to it, the people will always shout, "Free Barabbas." They love Barabbas. He's one of them. He has the same dreams. He does what they wish they could do. That other guy is more removed, more inscrutable. He makes them think. "Crucify him."
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Re: No jobs for US citizens without Homeland Security approv

Unread postby cynicalheretic » Tue 29 May 2007, 08:43:07

Evil your deluded. That won't do a thing either. We are all mother fucking screwed and there is nothing we can do about.

I for one, am going to start enjoying life, before all of the simple pleasures I know now, are stripped from me. I suggest you do the same.

I feel sorry for any sonuvabitch that comes for me, they will have fight like they can't imagine on their hands, but until then I am a man of peace and relaxation.

My promise to our government is: You leave me and mine alone and I will leave you alone.
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No jobs for US citizens without Homeland Security approval

Unread postby kochevnik » Wed 27 Jun 2007, 22:55:30

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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'U')S citizens who apply for a job will need prior approval from Department of Homeland Security under the terms immigration bill passed by the Senate this week.
American Civil Liberties Union pointed out that the DHS's Employment Eligibility Verification System (EEVS) is error plagued and if the department makes a mistake in determining work eligibility, there will be virtually no way to challenge the error or recover lost wages due to the bill’s prohibitions on judicial review.
Even current employees will need to obtain eligibility approval from the DHS Within 60 days of the Immigration Reform Act of 2006 becoming law.

I would like to point out that this includes people like me who generally work 1099 and don't really have 'wages'.
I would like to also point out that if the govt does not approve your 'right to work' - like say maybe you got on the wrong side of some petty bureaucrat for example - you will be un-employable for the rest of your life.
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Re: No jobs for US citizens without Homeland Security approv

Unread postby mmasters » Wed 27 Jun 2007, 23:00:30

Dear god.
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Re: No jobs for US citizens without Homeland Security approv

Unread postby kochevnik » Wed 27 Jun 2007, 23:18:50

Oh and this too ...Senate Immigration Bill Would Allow 100 Million New Legal Immigrants over the Next Twenty Years
Something like 80 percent of the American public is against this bill yet TPTB are ramming it down their throats. I don't understand how ANY politician could vote for this piece of shit unless they were getting some major major bribes on the side - because once they go on record as having voted for this pig, they will be out of office.

Consider the following :
a) Mexico is within 5 years of total financial collapse and internal civil war as Cantarell runs dry
b) The US govt is on the hook for roughly 50 Trillion dollars in promised bennies to the Boomers over the next several decades - the only way they have a chance in hell of paying these is to vastly increase the pool of taxpayers pumping money into the system

I think it's going to pass. And mark my words - when it does it will be the new 'Stamp Act' of the Second American Civil War - coming to a neighborhood near you in about 13 years - or whenever you lose your house and job - whichever one comes first.
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Re: No jobs for US citizens without Homeland Security approv

Unread postby mmasters » Wed 27 Jun 2007, 23:23:17

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Re: No jobs for US citizens without Homeland Security approv

Unread postby Baldwin » Thu 28 Jun 2007, 00:02:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') would like to point out that this includes people like me who generally work 1099 and don't really have 'wages'.
I would like to also point out that if the govt does not approve your 'right to work' - like say maybe you got on the wrong side of some petty bureaucrat for example - you will be un-employable for the rest of your life.

If I wanted to become a Jesuit priest, how would this affect me? Chances are (but not certain), that I would end up teaching in a Jesuit school. It is work, and I would be "paid", but the money would go to my order.
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Re: No jobs for US citizens without Homeland Security approv

Unread postby denverdave » Thu 28 Jun 2007, 00:10:20

from TFA:$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')bout 92% of those queries today are confirmed within seconds. However, the other 8% get "kicked out," and require additional verification with SSA or DHS. Some of those queries -- which might then require footwork by the employee or employer to get additional documentation -- get resolved in a day or two, while others take weeks, and some remain unconfirmed, said Stana.

I would imagine that a high percentage of those 8% are simply passed over by their prospective employers before they even get a chance to do "foot work" just because it's easier for employers to pick up the next resume in the stack. Good gawd, usually I dread the idea of collapse, but some days it can't come soon enough. If we still have elections in 2008, the first thing the new Prez needs to do is send congress a Mulligan bill that nullifies everything Bush has signed for the past eight years.
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Re: No jobs for US citizens without Homeland Security approv

Unread postby AndIFeelFine » Thu 28 Jun 2007, 01:04:32

And you know what's really funny? The damn politicians will get all butt-hurt and self righteous when the people they barred from survival start robbing shit to make ends meet.
And 80% of people are against this? Do we really need any more confirmation that "average person" is really just polite slang for "prison bitch"?
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Re: No jobs for US citizens without Homeland Security approv

Unread postby Aaron » Thu 28 Jun 2007, 11:42:50

I for one, welcome our new corporate overlor... oh yeah.

Never mind.
The problem is, of course, that not only is economics bankrupt, but it has always been nothing more than politics in disguise... economics is a form of brain damage.

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Re: No jobs for US citizens without Homeland Security approv

Unread postby dukey » Thu 28 Jun 2007, 11:46:42

the political system has become completely corrupted
essentially americans live in a dictatorship
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Re: No jobs for US citizens without Homeland Security approv

Unread postby Falconoffury » Thu 28 Jun 2007, 13:53:43

If there is one way to ensure the next great Depression, this is it.
"If humans don't control their numbers, nature will." -Pimentel
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Re: No jobs for US citizens without Homeland Security approv

Unread postby TheDude » Thu 28 Jun 2007, 21:51:50

Oh, speaking purely as an IP number traceable to a savings account I think it's a great idea. We need to be on our guard against terrorists. Image
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Re: No jobs for US citizens without Homeland Security approv

Unread postby kochevnik » Thu 28 Jun 2007, 22:45:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kochevnik', '[')b]I think it's going to pass.

Well, guess I was wrong. :) (Thank the Gods.)
Not to get too doomerish - but - did anyone else have the thought that now that Bush:
a) has a poll rating lower than dirt
b) just got his ass kicked on his pet immigration bill (twice)
and
c) has only a little over a year in power

might now do what he promised a few years ago - invade Iran ?
(BTW: If I say it will happen it won't - if I say it won't, then it's definitely ON) No way will Bush attack Iran before he leaves office - he's too much of a pussy. (There - now I've gone and done it.)
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