[Armageddon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', 'A')lthough I am uncertain of your intent I am taking that as a compliment thanks
If you would like to compound on that statement for better or worse please feel free to do so.

[NEOPO]

Why thank you Armegeddon.
Some people might say I am full of something but that it is not enthusiasm

Matt - I enjoy how you are toning this down even if it is for your own sake presently.
I remember what you said and how you were saying it.

You were basically trying to prove to me, as if i was one of the flock, that any effort to spread the word was a waste of time.
One of the reasons for this attitude was that in many instances you had tried and failed.
Thus you tell other people that there is no use in trying and that the only reason they are currently trying is because they seek power, to leverage their social capitol or as you put it "to use the peak oil meme to further their own political power".

Sorry man but not everything you learned in college is reality.
It is simply someones version of reality, printed in book form and then crammed into the mind of college students.
Then of course the newly enlightened proceed to use this flawed logic to explain away pretty much everything that they are uncomfortable with.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'Q')uite frankly, I sense some mental problems coming through in your emails. You may want to seek professional help. (I'm not joking here.) Please do not email about this particular topic again.

[Armageddon]

https://prisonplanet.tv/forum/index.php?topic=460.0

[roccman]

this is what gets me about Alex and makes me wonder if he is not a shill.

he offers not economic reason why the global elite act the way they do.

he denies PO as that economic benefit.

he also denies GW is man caused.

odd behavior from him

[Grifter]

man thats an awful thread, I can't be bothered to join it! whats wrong with me?

I don't know how anyone can possibly beieve that peak oil wont happen.

[dukey]

peak oil isn't a simple topic when it comes to timing
I mean theres a LOT of variable factors

strength of economies/recession
technology (to some extent)
tar sands ..
pricing out the poor countries while the rest of us carry on as normal .. etc
politics

And so what if he doesn't believe in peak oil ?
I don't believe in man made global warming.

[Armageddon]

Dukey, the earth is warming quickly. co2 are way too high. weather patterns are totally out of whack. Species are dying off at an astronomical number. Something is happening, and it's happening fast.

[grabby]

every "group" is the recipient of some plants and false info.
The idea is to thouroughly confuse and discount. It is so easy and it works so well. You know peak oil is true, Therefore you have proof J is wrong on at least one topic.

I dont blame him I think he is honest and fallen for several disinformation campaigns. When you have an exceptional bloodhound you can more easily lead him off track, just rub a little scent on the other trail.
It is so easy to play with a mind, and since it is, why wouldn't people do it?
Answer:
People do.

why have lots of groups disagree on key points? Disinformation and lack of study, and then a big intellectual brawl and nothing gets done, except one thing, when the mind gets tired the subconscious steps in and takes over and picks the one it wants.
If there is a nice pleasant voice telling you what to believe you will, like it or not. it is very susceptible to the next most reasonable thought, and then it locks in.
reason, emotion control at its finest. Just simple emotion control.
Be aware, don't argue till your tired, turn off the repetitive monster. Don't get tired, just ignore it and do something else.
Get your calculator out,
Peak oil is real.

He'll wake up when gas hits 10 bucks a gallon.

[NEOPO]

wtf are you goin on about Grabby?

I kinda get what you are trying to say yet honestly I am left with a big question mark

If you are trying to say that basically anything anyone like Alex Jones get's "Wrong" is just a result of disinformation then I would have to disagree. Possible and probable yes but not neccessarily as this "theory" leaves out simple human error and you know thats illogical.

Alex is great minus the Peak Oil part so reject him or accept him rather flawed, like all of us.

[cynicalheretic]

Given they way the world is going, I am starting to doubt peak oil will actually be a big problem. With world war 3 coming, and with the next US enslavement camps being built, I really doubt to many people will be driving anyway

[grabby]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', ' ')

Alex is great minus the Peak Oil part so reject him or accept him rather flawed, like all of us.

[grabby]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cynicalheretic', 'G')iven they way the world is going, I am starting to doubt peak oil will actually be a big problem. With world war 3 coming, and with the next US enslavement camps being built, I really doubt to many people will be driving anyway

[NEOPO]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('grabby', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', ' ')

Alex is great minus the Peak Oil part so reject him or accept him rather flawed, like all of us.

[Carlhole]

Alex Jones is 113% invested in the Illuminati thing.

He's made it a business. And he sticks to his business formula.

I imagine he evaluated the the peak oil idea as ultimately threatening his globalization/one world government theory. If globalization is NOT leading to a New World Order dominated by a sick, satanic, secretive global elite who worship a mysterious owl, then his whole business formula, as he's been foghorning it for years now, is... wrong!

Wrong, AJ! What would your listeners think of you if you actually turned out to be (gulp) WRONG?

AJ capitalizes on the simple-mindedness of his listeners (and viewers) and their natural distrust of all things multinational and globalized. It's a view that mixes truth and fantasy in a weird way that appeals to a lot of ordinary folk.

I'm surprised at how many people who have seen "Terrorstorm". And they all totally believe that Jimmy Carter engages in weird sexual rituals with children beneath that ridiculous owl at The Bohemian Grove!

Get 'em Jimmy!

[grabby]

Never thought of that, business formula could interfere.

Because peak oil is going to remove his end scenario he probably doesnt like it. There will be no global nothing in a few years.

[mmasters]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', 'A')lex Jones is 113% invested in the Illuminati thing.

He's made it a business. And he sticks to his business formula.

I imagine he evaluated the the peak oil idea as ultimately threatening his globalization/one world government theory. If globalization is NOT leading to a New World Order dominated by a sick, satanic, secretive global elite who worship a mysterious owl, then his whole business formula, as he's been foghorning it for years now, is... wrong!

Wrong, AJ! What would your listeners think of you if you actually turned out to be (gulp) WRONG?

AJ capitalizes on the simple-mindedness of his listeners (and viewers) and their natural distrust of all things multinational and globalized. It's a view that mixes truth and fantasy in a weird way that appeals to a lot of ordinary folk.

I'm surprised at how many people who have seen "Terrorstorm". And they all totally believe that Jimmy Carter engages in weird sexual rituals with children beneath that ridiculous owl at The Bohemian Grove!

Get 'em Jimmy!

[Carlhole]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mmasters', 'P')erhaps he sees PO as taking away from the globalist agenda though many of us see the two as synergistic - that PO will be used to significantly advance the globalist agenda.

[I_Like_Plants]

Alex Jones is ..... wierd.....

From what I've been able to figure, he believes in the Illuminati etc thing completely, and thinks the peak oil / global warming / Gaia thing is something cooked up as a reason to depopulate the earth so it will be a nicer place to live for the elite. I guess 11-12 billion starving souls is far preferable to population cutdown!

I found a guy on YouTube named Webster Tarpley, kind of a smarter Alex Jones, good lecturer, just as crazy as Alex Jones though.

[AlCzervik]

9/11 Truthers' general animosity toward peak oil has essentially made me give up on them. Since Mike Ruppert is gone now, only Oil Empire and Jenna Orkin (who may actually be dating Mike Ruppert) get it at this point.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '9')/11 research is a rabbit-hole of Byzantine complexity full of snares and delusions and peopled with false friends, lunatics, earnest lost souls and a few heroes. It's not necessary to understand all the nuances of science and bureaucracy that allowed the government to get away with mass murder, blame it on swarthy foreigners (of whom many are eager accomplices) and use the incident as (in the words of the Cheney, Jeb Bush et al cabal, the Project for a New American Century) "a new Pearl Harbor." At this critical juncture in human history, it's only necessary to understand why they did it. The motive was Peak Oil, a disaster which will affect everyone on the planet, about which all must enlighten themselves and for which all must prepare.
-- Jenna Orkin, World Trade Center Environmental Organization
http://mikeruppert.blogspot.com/2007/05 ... fraud.html

[cynicalheretic]

Do i have to remind you all

Lizard People!!!

Why are we even wasting our breath on Alex Jones