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Ted Kazynski: Genius or Madman?

Unread postby static66 » Thu 24 May 2007, 20:22:34

I'm sure I didn't spell his name right, (sorry Ted) but when my nephew told me he was studying his Manifesto a few years back I thought he was a little tapped... now I am having second thoughts.
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Re: Ted Kazynski: Genius or Madman?

Unread postby mlit » Thu 24 May 2007, 20:31:26

Genius in some ways but the little things he did, did nothing to stop what he was against. He should have come up with better targets. Injuring or killing a few people who were furthering what he was against had no effects at all.
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Re: Ted Kazynski: Genius or Madman?

Unread postby NEOPO » Thu 24 May 2007, 20:41:05

Heh...

Do I address violence in general or what I see as a natural human dislike and disgust with what we human's have done and/or are doing?

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Violence should always be the last resort yet it is an upside down kinda world.

They use violence to control, doesn't really matter if it is real or a false flag operation. This spiders web is all encompassing.

Step way out of line punk and that's just another dead voice of dissention...

Its like quick sand, just dont go there until you are actually forced and then please go away from me when you do or else I will have to also "go there" and we don't want that...

Ted lost it, plain and simple, happens to some people sometimes.
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Re: Ted Kazynski: Genius or Madman?

Unread postby I_Like_Plants » Thu 24 May 2007, 20:45:32

His Manifesto does not exhibit the finest writing in the English language. And he gets sidetracked into personal beefs that are symptoms of the problem (like modern "feminism") but muddy the message. But I say genius. Actually, I say Saint, as in Saint Kaczynski, but that's just me.
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Re: Ted Kazynski: Genius or Madman?

Unread postby Daculling » Thu 24 May 2007, 21:43:39

Both. I've read his manifest. Retreating to the woods and sending bombs is not the most effective means of change.

He's a Casandra and genius gone mad.
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Re: Ted Kazynski: Genius or Madman?

Unread postby I_Like_Plants » Thu 24 May 2007, 22:22:05

OK then who's won more hearts and minds to the primitivist cause? Zerzan? Zerzan's a great writer, but has not gotten the word out much. Abbey? Abbey *is* a great writer, and won some people over, but Ted DID it. Ted didn't just talk about it, he DID it. Ted proved it can be done.

Ted didn't even start out to blow techies up, it's just the silver lining on the cloud .... he was trying to live and mind his own business, and the suburbs kept invading. It got where he had soccer moms in capris in his garden and nasty surburban kids stealing stuff.

I mean he moved out to the middle of fucking NO WHERE but that's how bad sprawl is in the US.
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Re: Ted Kazynski: Genius or Madman?

Unread postby I_Like_Plants » Thu 24 May 2007, 23:13:23

Some of the Gospel of St. Kaczynski:

http://www.primitivism.com/kaczynski.htm
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Re: Ted Kazynski: Genius or Madman?

Unread postby Plantagenet » Fri 25 May 2007, 00:53:02

Genius? No. He didn't accomplish anything of note.

Madman? Not to the point he should escape punishment for his crimes.

Murderer? Yes.
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Re: Ted Kazynski: Genius or Madman?

Unread postby PolestaR » Fri 25 May 2007, 01:01:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('purcatty', 'C')razier than a loon. How can you talk peace, solitude, safety freedom from fear, Democracy, children and our heritage and then bomb people? Anyone who does that is crazy.


:lol: Crazy is an opinion you know, so to some you may be crazy simply because you drive a car, or brush your teath with sodium flouride. I get tired of unenlightened people like yourself who go place to place acting like there is this thing known as universal good or evil. Because let me give you one fact you can take to the bank today to cash, there isn't.

You know what I think is crazy? Faith, and people who are illogical and/or willfully ignorant. As long as I can talk to you, and you can listen and be open to change then I don't really care if you're sending bombs to people or raping dead horses in your backyard.
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Re: Ted Kazynski: Genius or Madman?

Unread postby PolestaR » Fri 25 May 2007, 02:33:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('purcatty', 'C')razier than a loon. How can you talk peace, solitude, safety freedom from fear, (freedom from terrorists) building peaceful governments, instituting a new Democracy, setting up an independant military and then bomb people? Anyone who does that is crazy.

get it? Double...
entendre...

I guess you had to be there.


Well most people think bombing people in general is crazy and politicians are crazy so it's not really that clever a play on words. I didn't think there was something that obvious there that you meant it as subtle. But ok, I'll give you it. ;)

You're still in the dark though right.
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Re: Ted Kazynski: Genius or Madman?

Unread postby TommyJefferson » Fri 25 May 2007, 14:47:40

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('purcatty', 'H')ow can you talk peace, solitude, safety freedom from fear, Democracy, children and our heritage and then bomb people? Anyone who does that is crazy.


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Re: Ted Kazynski: Genius or Madman?

Unread postby bobaloo » Sat 26 May 2007, 12:22:13

LOL, thanks, need that this morning.
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Re: Ted Kazynski: Genius or Madman?

Unread postby NEOPO » Sun 27 May 2007, 11:36:19

Anger is not hate.

The ignore button is not bliss.

Emotions are neccessary.

Post wwII THOUSANDS of nazi scientist's were welcomed to the fold in the USA, Britian and Russia.

Science, psychology, psychiatry, politics and religion.

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Re: Ted Kazynski: Genius or Madman?

Unread postby grabby » Sun 27 May 2007, 12:41:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('purcatty', 'a')nd there is only one path

that will take you across a bridge.

That is to take the bridge-path.

There is only one truthful answer to any problem - I took calculus, I know.

But I think you missed the point on the fist post.
It had a double entendre!
Crazier than a loon. How can you talk peace, solitude, safety freedom from fear, (freedom from terrorists) building peaceful governments, instituting a new Democracy, setting up an independant military and then bomb people? Anyone who does that is crazy.

I guess you had to be there.
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