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The Freedom to Breed - The poll

What's on your mind?
General interest discussions, not necessarily related to depletion.

Freedom to breed? A universal human right or the planet's plague

Yes - It is god's law
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No - The law should allow only 1 child per woman
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Only the "strong" and "smart" should be allowed to breed. The vitality of the herd(sorry .. people) is uber alles
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No - use the free market to decide on reproductive rights (domestical child trade quotas)
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Don't care - I'm guy/lesbian/single/vasectomized/had my tubes tied/
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Total votes : 34

Re: Minorities breeding like cockroaches...

Unread postby MonteQuest » Thu 17 May 2007, 18:12:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Prince', ' ')I think more telling is the growth between white Americans and their counterparts. Look at the table data, and you'll see the white population has grown 1.6% in 7 years, while the Mexicans and Asians are pumping out Xerox copies, representing ~ 25% increases in the same timeframe.


It's not an issue of race, it is an issue of population demographics.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')ispanics are fanning out to more states across the nation, creating a sharp contrast between their predominantly young numbers and those of an aging white society, according to Census population estimates out Thursday.


It's not that Asians and Hispanics as a race compared to whites are having more children...it's that the majority of them are young and in prime reproductive range.

Look at the age demographics.
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Re: Minorities breeding like cockroaches...

Unread postby Plantagenet » Thu 17 May 2007, 18:35:35

On the bright side, the available choices in ethnic restaurants keeps increasing.
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Re: Minorities breeding like cockroaches...

Unread postby Prince » Thu 17 May 2007, 19:20:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', 'I')t's not that Asians and Hispanics as a race compared to whites are having more children...it's that the majority of them are young and in prime reproductive range.

Look at the age demographics.


Aren't we getting caught in semantics now? We seem to be saying the same thing. There are not has many young Causcasians having kids, nor are they having them as frequently. Thus, over time, the proportion of Caucasians in the country will diminish.
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Re: Minorities breeding like cockroaches...

Unread postby Baldwin » Thu 17 May 2007, 22:58:22

In the racist rants, some worthy points have been made. Let's take a look at 4 colonies that gained practical independence from a European overlord: USA, Canada (this is where the word practical comes in), Nigeria, and Rwanda. The US and Canada grew and flourished. The US was set back by the Civil War, but it grew and developed to be greater than any European nation. Canada is the ideal model on how to gain independence peacefully and keep peace. Angola (fmr. Portuguese) has suffered from civil strife to the point of calling in mercenaries. Rwanda has seen some of Africa's worst genocide.

Additionally, whites do have the experience and know-how that Africans just lack. The africans thought that they could govern or farm for themselves....now just look at Zimbabwe. Africans can barely get gnarled wheat from land that when under white stewardship was the breadbasket of the southern region of Africa.

We have to look at why young caucasians aren't having kids. In my family atleast, the young (my generation) are dealing with longer stays in college for that masters or other specialized training. Furthermore, the cost of living doesn't help. Also, a culture of responsibility-free sex doesn't help.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') agree that immigration needs to stop.


Damn right. We need laws banning immigrant groups we get too much of....ie hispanics. Ellis Island was too welcoming and open for me...though the people that came through Ellis island were the ones who wanted to work instead of getting a sampler platter of American entitlement programs.
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Re: Minorities breeding like cockroaches...

Unread postby I_Like_Plants » Thu 17 May 2007, 23:09:34

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('frankthetank', 'I') wouldn't want to be a minority in an all white neighborhood when everyone loses their jobs and gas is $7 gallon and Krogers just sold out of their remaining bread.


You forgot to write Wonder bread! And mayonnaise.... no wait, Miracle Whip.

OK, I come from a family of 5 kids myself, us whities were breeding like friggin' rabbits not long ago.

Look, it's been talked about enough on the news and radio, the census has made it so you can claim yourself as mixed race, so that makes for a sudden increase in minorities. Also, there are a lot of perks offered to minorities, if you can "pass" it's to your advantage to do so - I'd be better off if I changed my name to a Hispanic one from its very WASPy one, and spent some time working on my Spanish.

There's a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.... whites will be able to claim minority status soon, and it won't be too soon - if we're going to set up that game, let's at least benefit from it.

The problem is, poor whites are not supposed to exist, if you're white you're supposed to be middle class or something. T'ain't true.

Yeah, we're headed for some ugly times. We need to keep our eyes on the roots of this, not the symptoms. But we can't ignore the symptoms, because that's what we're going to see on the streets.
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Re: Minorities breeding like cockroaches...

Unread postby Curator » Thu 17 May 2007, 23:37:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('undertaker', '
')They make kids read the Diary of Anne Fake and Kill a Mockingbird -- what a bunch of crap.


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Re: Minorities breeding like cockroaches...

Unread postby NEOPO » Thu 17 May 2007, 23:48:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Baldwin', 'I')n the racist rants, some worthy points have been made. Let's take a look at 4 colonies that gained practical independence from a European overlord: USA, Canada (this is where the word practical comes in), Nigeria, and Rwanda. The US and Canada grew and flourished. The US was set back by the Civil War, but it grew and developed to be greater than any European nation. Canada is the ideal model on how to gain independence peacefully and keep peace. Angola (fmr. Portuguese) has suffered from civil strife to the point of calling in mercenaries. Rwanda has seen some of Africa's worst genocide.

Additionally, whites do have the experience and know-how that Africans just lack. The africans thought that they could govern or farm for themselves....now just look at Zimbabwe. Africans can barely get gnarled wheat from land that when under white stewardship was the breadbasket of the southern region of Africa.

We have to look at why young caucasians aren't having kids. In my family atleast, the young (my generation) are dealing with longer stays in college for that masters or other specialized training. Furthermore, the cost of living doesn't help. Also, a culture of responsibility-free sex doesn't help.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') agree that immigration needs to stop.


Damn right. We need laws banning immigrant groups we get too much of....ie hispanics. Ellis Island was too welcoming and open for me...though the people that came through Ellis island were the ones who wanted to work instead of getting a sampler platter of American entitlement programs.


No one wants to "kill" this one?

I do not have the time really yet I did want to say that if I did have the time I would carve this ameroeurocentric buttocks a few new orifices...

Where do we clone these people anyways...
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Re: Minorities breeding like cockroaches...

Unread postby Prince » Fri 18 May 2007, 00:10:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'R')ather it is povery that breeds breeding as an insurance program for old age. The mexicans did not emmigrate in these numbers before the United States government working as lapdogs for the multinational grain dealers underminded the mexican farm sending young adults and children to the cities and the US for work.


Yes, absolutely. That is my point. I think I've made that rather clear. If these were high-class patrons infiltrating our land, then I think many would have a different (and, hence, much more favorable) opinion on this matter. But you take the shit from the dredges in the world--the biggest shit you can find, and then you allow them to come here. Amnesty precisely is what it is. And this shit breeds and creates more shit. Single mothers, drug heads, uninsured, amoral, crime-ridden shit. Say what you want about your holier-than-thou faux-altruistic views, but I'll bet my left testicle that you sure as hell wouldn't find yourself living in an area infiltrated by these maggots. If your neighborhood became flooded with this sewage--as has happened more and more in So Cal and Texas in the last two decades--you would move away to a safer, cleaner area.

You seem to equate closing borders with racism, which is judgmental and incorrect in itself. I have no problems with high-class immigrants coming here and doing well. I work with many Asian and East Indian people who are very bright and contribute to a safe and prosperous society. Let's face it, though. The shit coming from Mexico aren't exactly high class. Half of them lack a high school education, they milk the healthcare and social welfare system at a very high cost to US taxpayers, they drive up crime, they have made our neighborhoods unsafe. I can go on, of course. And now we've created a system that gives this shit amnesty and we have no choice but to accept.

Further, I'm not commenting on what we did; I'm more concerned about where we're going. I don't think it matters what we did to Mexico. Ask any Middle Eastern how well they've been treated by Americans in the name of oil and gas in the last 40 years. It's very much the same argument. We all agree that PO will have dire consequences and we are a country addicted to a resource that is soon to be declining. How do we honestly expect to move forward when we will add 20-30 million immigrants in the next 10-15 years?
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Re: Minorities breeding like cockroaches...

Unread postby Pretorian » Fri 18 May 2007, 02:46:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '
')Do you racists understand what I said. Your govermnet your proud american corporations colluded to ruin the mexican economy.



So what?
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Re: Minorities breeding like cockroaches...

Unread postby undertaker » Fri 18 May 2007, 08:04:16

Hell, I know quite well, and I've said so myself, NAFTA and subsidized corn to Mexico put a lot of Mexican corn farmers out of business. I started mini-farming because of this. I pick my own damn [s]lettuce[/s] kale, spinach, chard, kohlrabi now!

So now we have this multicultural mess, and Whites better adapt by adopting the same kind of racial solidarity that every other race has. This isn't "Leave it to Beaver" land anymore where we could take a White majority for granted. Now we have to put aside the sports teams, and take up a new sport -- extreme racial demographics football! We have to learn to cheer when White babies are born and White communities increase their percentage, and boo when . . . well, you get the picture.

That's the unintended consequence of the multicult -- it will make Whites extremely racially conscious.
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Re: Minorities breeding like cockroaches...

Unread postby Newsseeker » Fri 18 May 2007, 08:32:51

It's nice to think of Whites developing racial solidarity but they have been so conditioned by the mass media to be against it that they are well on their way to the slaughterhouse. The majority in this country doesn't look out for its own interests and there is no one at the helm. God help us in a time of crisis because it will start to be like Zimbabwe in parts of this country and there will not be enough lifeboats to go around.
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Re: Minorities breeding like cockroaches...

Unread postby Aaron » Fri 18 May 2007, 08:35:16

So what's the problem?

If "Minorities are breeding like cockroaches", just turn on the lights...
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Re: Minorities breeding like cockroaches...

Unread postby Pretorian » Fri 18 May 2007, 09:02:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '
')Do you racists understand what I said. Your govermnet your proud american corporations colluded to ruin the mexican economy.



So what?
I'll bet that response burned up a few neurons hey?


What took a few neurons was looking for a point in that pointless rant of yours.
So you concluded finally with
Do you racists understand what I said. Your govermnet your proud american corporations colluded to ruin the mexican economy.
So fuckin* what? Assuming that you are 100% right, what was your missing point? Every Mex now entitled to be kissed in the ass? A bunkbed in everyone's basement? Something else?

Btw, it takes a J-guy to answer a question with a question.
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Re: Minorities breeding like cockroaches...

Unread postby NEOPO » Fri 18 May 2007, 09:08:30

Idiots breeding like minorities.

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Re: Minorities breeding like cockroaches...

Unread postby TheDude » Fri 18 May 2007, 09:23:54

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Prince', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', 'I')t's not that Asians and Hispanics as a race compared to whites are having more children...it's that the majority of them are young and in prime reproductive range.

Look at the age demographics.


Aren't we getting caught in semantics now? We seem to be saying the same thing. There are not has many young Causcasians having kids, nor are they having them as frequently. Thus, over time, the proportion of Caucasians in the country will diminish.


Get to multiplying, fruit. Didn't Pat Robertson suggest as much?

When things break down we'll have a whole patchwork nation of Ulsters and Palestines, won't that be good sectarian fun? Innumerable local chapters of the Klan. Sharpen your machete. Stock up on rope for lynchings from creaky telephone poles.

The Germans embracing the concept of racial purity was vastly ironic, almost every German has some Spanish/French/English/ Swedish/Etc. blood in them courtesy of raping soldiers in the Thirty Years War. We have scientific findings come along like how we're all descended from one batch of 2,000 ancestors, or how the genetic difference in the British Isles is essentially neglible. Don't make no difference no how! You ain't from around here, are ya boy?
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Re: Minorities breeding like cockroaches...

Unread postby Prince » Fri 18 May 2007, 09:41:09

The man from Champoeg, OR (aka ghost town) is giving advice on social diversity. Brilliant.

As for the rest of your strawman, please point out where I made any specific allegations to which you are alluding.
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Re: Minorities breeding like cockroaches...

Unread postby eastbay » Fri 18 May 2007, 10:41:10

We have scientific findings come along like how we're all descended from one batch of 2,000 ancestors, or how the genetic difference in the British Isles is essentially neglible.

Does that include everyone in London too?
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