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Information Warfare

Unread postby NEOPO » Mon 14 May 2007, 18:45:04

Access to YouTube, MySpace cut for soldiers

lie:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he policy is being implemented to protect information and reduce drag on the department's networks, according to Bell.


truth:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he new policy is different because it creates a blanket ban on several sites used by military personnel to exchange messages, pictures, video and audio with family and friends.


something to consider:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')f the restrictions are intended to prevent soldiers from giving or receiving bad news, they could also prevent them from providing positive reports from the field, said Noah Shachtman, who runs a national security blog for Wired Magazine.

"This is as much an information war as it is bombs and bullets," he said. "And they are muzzling their best voices."


What an understatement this is and I only wonder if the guy understands the many ways his words apply.

Who else was hoping that po.com received an honorable mention? 8) I would have been alittle paranoid and quite proud all at once!

I figure it has something to do with videos like the following:
God's Gonna Cut You Down

Bob Dylan's MASTERS of WAR

Bring Your Own Bombs

System of a Down-Soldier Side(music video)

but then we have:
Marines looking for a few good MySpace pals
Well isn't that special...

Can we merge this thread with the one Aaron is hot about, the missing BP article? as I feel both are important, relevant to PO and examples of what Alex Jones refers to as "Infowars".
Just a thought, no biggy.
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Re: Information Warfare

Unread postby Tanada » Tue 15 May 2007, 07:14:58

TPTB always try and restrict information from "The Front lines" from reaching friends and families of the military, and they always fail.
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Re: Information Warfare

Unread postby Newsseeker » Tue 15 May 2007, 09:43:46

Wonder what else they're going to restrict as time goes on? Hotmail? Yahoo? Who knows....
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Re: Information Warfare

Unread postby NEOPO » Tue 15 May 2007, 09:51:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tanada', 'T')PTB always try and restrict information from "The Front lines" from reaching friends and families of the military, and they always fail.


Well not always but they did learn a valueable lesson from Vietnam and since then have tried to restrict and/or manipulate any front lines information.

Fallujah and white phosphorus comes to mind. Depleted Uranium munitions as well.

And then we have articles like the following which get very little exposure and almost NEVER get repeated.
An estimated 655,000 Iraqis have died since 2003

Thanks for the bump.
Hoping this thread can be a gathering place of disinfo and "disappearing" articles like the magic B.P. article.

Newsseeker - I would say that if Morale gets much lower they might go back to hand writing letters. They will probably say that the terr's are hacking the system or some such excuse to disallow computer access.
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Re: Information Warfare

Unread postby TWilliam » Tue 15 May 2007, 13:01:44

This is one of the reasons that I don't particularly like the restrictions her on posting complete articles. While granted in most cases it's probably appropriate, there are times when you just know certain things are not going to remain accessible at their original location, and it's important imo that such things not be allowed to simply "disappear".

Granted it's a tough call as to which is which...
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Re: Information Warfare

Unread postby kabu » Wed 16 May 2007, 13:00:33

Same war, different front:

Wednesday, May 16th, 2007
Iraq Police Enforces Ban on Reporting at Bomb Scenes
In news from Iraq, Iraqi police are now enforcing a ban on photographers and tv camera operators from filming the aftermath of deadly bombings. On Tuesday, police fired warning shots in the air after journalists attempted to report on a bombing in Baghdad that killed seven people and wounded 17. Reporters Without Borders said the growing restrictions on the media could end in a total news blackout on what's happening in Iraq.
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Re: Information Warfare

Unread postby Plantagenet » Wed 16 May 2007, 13:34:49

The first casualty when war comes is truth.

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Re: Information Warfare

Unread postby kabu » Wed 16 May 2007, 14:14:37

Not in all circles, Plantagenet... just in the ones that are made up of a majority that, say, rely on a government's propagandists to gain some perspective on a war that that government waged on another country, after the target had the audacity to stick to the international norm for extradition.
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Re: Information Warfare

Unread postby Plantagenet » Wed 16 May 2007, 15:30:09

All governments use propaganda at home and abroad to further their cause in times of war, Kabu.

Its unfortunate, but war isn't a tea party.
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Re: Information Warfare

Unread postby Plantagenet » Wed 16 May 2007, 15:34:11

What a cruel thing is war: to separate and destroy families and friends, and mar the purest joys and happiness God has granted us in this world; to fill our hearts with hatred instead of love for our neighbors, and to devastate the fair face of this beautiful world.

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Re: Information Warfare

Unread postby paimei01 » Wed 16 May 2007, 16:53:07

Die for your country !
That is your right , and we don't want to hear from you on the internet. We hate critics.
Who the f are these "we" ?
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Re: Information Warfare

Unread postby Kristen » Wed 16 May 2007, 21:49:10

That's horribly depressing. The people who are sacraficing their lives for this lie are being cut off from the ones back home. Where's the common empathy anymore? I hope this event makes the troops realize they are being played like pawns on the chess board.
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Re: Information Warfare

Unread postby NEOPO » Wed 16 May 2007, 23:34:49

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TWilliam', 'T')his is one of the reasons that I don't particularly like the restrictions her on posting complete articles. While granted in most cases it's probably appropriate, there are times when you just know certain things are not going to remain accessible at their original location, and it's important imo that such things not be allowed to simply "disappear".

Granted it's a tough call as to which is which...

Thus, If one runs across an article that has one rubbing one's eyes, cut and paste it for posterity please as it just might be important 8)

Hmmm this reminds me of something, maybe you fine folks can help.

I was watching some news channel and caught something about the "real" drug in cigarettes. The "scientists" were suggesting that it was a chemical that was produced when the cigarette was burning. A chemical reaction when Sugar is burned producing a drug they called something like acetine or acetitine, can't recall exactly.

They showed lab rats that were addicted to this Sugar burning drug something like 10x more then Nicotine and for the people who understand drugs that is really saying something as nicotine is usually rated the highest or second next to the worst freakin addictive drug you can think of.

The companies testing cigarettes never found the drug because a certain temperature had to be reached by a strong inhale for the drug to "occur" and the machines used in the testing were "toking" at a slower and regulated pace like duh....

Needless to say I have never seen anything else on the matter :lol:

Anyone? Class? Bueller?

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Ok, back to the Troop dealio, I thought I posted this here already yet it went poof so one more try because I am persistent like that!

From the bottom to the top the goal is to enslave us all.
The ways are many and they seem to have all the time in the world like a goal passed on from generation to generation. A "pretty" noose willingly put about one's neck and worn like the Gruesome Jewelry mentioned in Aaron's thread.

Debase/Degrade all religion/spiritualism (predator priests,gay meth head ministers etc etc etc a pattern on this exists since and probably before Constantine I)
Debase/Degrade all science (science for hire, Peak Oil!, Climate Change!, 911 Truth!, big pharma orgies with all medical fields, Flat earth with a sun revolving around it, Operation paperclip/MK ultra and on and on we could go)

Debase/Degrade anything/everything which makes the people strong and keeps the state in check.
Our families, our friends and even ourselves kept busy fucking one another over in one way or another every minute of every day each and every day A.K.A "an honest day of mindless work" A.K.A capitolism pronounced "Cap isce ual ism", understand?

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So, do they want happy troops?
Do they want a peaceful Iraq?
Do they want to limit civilian casualties?
Do they want to leave Iraq?
Do they want good morale?

Fuck NO X5!

Doesn't it drive you mad, like a thorn in your mind knowing that every step we/you/I take is being capitolized upon, manipulated and perhaps in the case of some of the people I most despise here, controlled?

What does fake steak taste like anyways ALL OF YOU who never lift a finger to type one damn word in protest???

Oh, let us go one step beyond that as some would even cheer and drop bombs on real people from their keyboard themselves if it were possible to do so...

Some want the population reduced so PO will "go away" until after they have expired so they can go vroom easy motoring ad infinitum and their precious economy wont collapse (enter your gruesome jewelry here) etc etc etc....

Hmmm yes real good image of YOUR Sacred Holy Cow..... INDEED!!! HERE HERE!!! HOORAH!!!

Bob Dylan's MASTERS of WAR

Ya know, yer right? I want a massive die off also I just want you and yours to go first...

There is only one real war and only one real protest and it isnt here and it isnt in some conference room nor is it on the TV etc etc...

It is in your mind and it is up to you who will win and who will lose, who will live and who will die.
A little game we call Information Warfare.

What do you think about when you fill er up?
'Huge rise' in Iraqi death tolls

2 bits for a spouse, 1 bit for a child...


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Re: Information Warfare

Unread postby kabu » Thu 17 May 2007, 02:06:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'A')ll governments use propaganda at home and abroad to further their cause in times of war, Kabu.

Its unfortunate, but war isn't a tea party.

Oh you won't get any argument from me there. Didn't you click on the link? I thought you could give me some insight on this... incongruency. I thought we could use this as a case study for the thread, since you're here and all.
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Re: Information Warfare

Unread postby NEOPO » Mon 21 May 2007, 18:33:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('purcatty', 'T')here it is, then.
Don't play the horn until the show starts.

Also as for the additive to zigs:

Although in the documents surveyed, ammonia emerges as the primary chemical tool used to enhance nicotine effects, other additives with similar functions are currently in use and more are being researched. Of particular note are Acetaldehyde, Levulinic Acid, Theobromine and Glycyrrhizin -- Although described by the tobacco industry as 'smoothers' and 'flavour enhancers', all appear to have some pharmacological effect in controlling nicotine absorption levels and/or delivery.

Acetaldehyde is produced by the burning of sugars (the most common tobacco additives42). Industry scientists suspected that acetaldehyde could enhance the addictive effects of nicotine. Senior Philip Morris scientist Victor J. DeNoble began research in the early eighties, into the behavioural effects of nicotine and acetaldehyde in rats. He discovered that the two drugs worked synergistically to enhance the addictive nature of nicotine. DeNoble's research papers for Philip Morris reveal the potential for acetaldehyde to act in this way:

"The results can be summarized as follows: 1 acetaldehyde does function as a positive reinforcer for rats. 2 acetaldehyde at equal doses (mg) to(-) nicotine is more effective at maintaining self-administration behaviour, 3 the endogenous opioid system is not involved in the maintenance of acetaldehyde self administration, and 4) combinations of nicotine and acetaldehyde produce supra-additive effects when self administered."43 (PM)



"Acetaldehyde alone maintained lever pressing at a greater rate than nicotine at equal mg/kg doses. This is consistent with other findings at this laboratory." (Philip Morris, 1983)44

press those levers...

I think if Dillon were alive today he'd turn over in his grave.

Finally, the info war: How to win:

nah, you wouldn't do it anyway.


Thank you for that info.
No, please tell us all how to win the info war :)
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