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When did you first hear about peak oil?

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When did you first hear about peak oil?

Poll ended at Wed 02 Feb 2005, 22:37:48

before 1980
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1980s
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1990s
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2000-2001
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2002
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2003
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early 2004
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late 2004
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Um, I just heard about it.
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Peak what?
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Total votes : 43

When did you first hear about peak oil?

Unread postby johnmarkos » Mon 03 Jan 2005, 22:37:48

I'm trying to get a sense of how quickly PO awareness is growing.
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Re: When did you first hear about peak oil?

Unread postby Guest » Mon 03 Jan 2005, 22:52:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('johnmarkos', 'I')'m trying to get a sense of how quickly PO awareness is growing.


I remember this being an idea back in 1978. But like with many regrets, I shouldda acted sooner. *sigh* Didn't keep my eyes on the prize.

It may be moot - depending on how 'the powers that be' act in my world - I may not make it to the other side of riots/pathogins/marshall law/aliens/earth crust opening up/rogue black hole swallowing entire solar system.

Upside to black hole - No peak oil and find out if the movie "The Black Hole" was right.
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Unread postby jesus_of_suburbia_old » Tue 04 Jan 2005, 01:05:42

I was browsing the publicenemy.com forums. A poster named Bill the Pharmacist started about four threads on peak oil on the first page. Most of the board ignored him, but I took him up on the offer and scanned through Savinar's [smilie=icon_puke_l.gif]. This was in early August of 04'.
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Unread postby mindfarkk » Tue 04 Jan 2005, 01:25:58

as "PO" per say, only last 2004. but i've been aware of the underlying realities, finiteness of resources etc. since the 70's. i have been so wholly invested in working for social and political change in the last 10-12 years i didn't realize it wasn't "out there" anymore (when you are a kid, 40-80 years might as well be forever) it was coming right up.
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Unread postby Clouseau2 » Tue 04 Jan 2005, 03:50:52

Randomly ran into it on a server at berkeley. Read one article, realized it could be true, read more articles and more and more and more and more and more, basically spent 3 days reading and freaking out. Went into a depression for 2 months. Got over it. I think I'm in the "I can't stop it or make enough people believe it" phase now.
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Unread postby KiddieKorral » Tue 04 Jan 2005, 05:57:22

Read the infamous Chapter 3 in Dude, Where's My Country?
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Unread postby MikeB » Tue 04 Jan 2005, 11:07:23

It all started in a vague way with the publication of the Harper's article in 2003 "The Oil We Eat: Following the Food Chain Back to Iraq." I didn't become captivated? obsessed? with Peak Oil until January 2004. And yet, when I think back on it, I remember some vague rumblings about resource depletion back in my Geology and Human Affairs class at the University of Toledo back in 1982.
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Unread postby stu » Tue 04 Jan 2005, 11:12:22

Came across Matt Savinars website a couple of months ago whilst researching high oil prices.
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Unread postby Jogy » Tue 04 Jan 2005, 18:49:49

Sometime in the last 8 months.

read something about it, read some more, and didn't stop reading and realising that we are a little bit doomed the way i look at it.
I'm in the same stage as Clouseau2 at this time.

The bad part is thati live in the most densely populated area of europe, so the big blow will come here. Ow well, the borders are open, so i can always imigrate to France or something Image
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Unread postby johnmarkos » Tue 04 Jan 2005, 20:09:17

I think awareness-building is moving off the net and into the community at large. There's a big screening of, "The End of Suburbia," coming up in my city soon. I'm trying to drum up interest among my friends. Groups are meeting all over the area and even in my neighborhood. Maybe this'll turn into a movement of sorts.

I suspect that Matt Savinar's web site brought a lot of folks into PO awareness.

Personally, I found out of PO back around the 2000 US election. I was visiting a friend in Boston and he said something like, "You think things are bad, look up Hubbert's Peak on the Internet," or something like that.
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Unread postby Sencha » Tue 04 Jan 2005, 21:23:11

I was browsing forums on conspiracy theories during my summer vacation. Someone dropped a link to Matt Savinar's site. It sound interesting. (how could a link entitled "lifeaftertheoilcrash.net" not?) Clicked on it, read the page and the rest is history.

Looking back on that day, I would give anything to reverse what I did. Had to be one of the biggest mistakes of my life.
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Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Tue 04 Jan 2005, 21:40:22

Read From the Fryer to the Fuel Tank back in 2002. Didn't pay too much attention (their figures show peak in like 2025.) Then discovered From the Wilderness in 8/04. Within the week I had ordered a bunch of books on the topic and was reading everything I could find on the net.
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Unread postby JLK » Tue 04 Jan 2005, 21:50:21

I remember it being discussed when I was in grade school in the 1970's. The thrust back then was that we would make a seamless transition to more nuclear power, and that fusion power would probably be available by the time it happened.

Thirty year goes by, and the public seems to forget about it, and now here it is again, right on time!
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Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Tue 04 Jan 2005, 23:15:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JLK', '
')Thirty year goes by, and the public seems to forget about it, and now here it is again, right on time!
Right on time to die! yikes! Here's to swimming naked.
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Unread postby lowem » Wed 05 Jan 2005, 01:01:01

Was just trying to start a family. *Had* to do some research. Found out a lot more about how the real world actually works, along the way. Ploughed through all manner of "contrarian" websites. Came across a link to Jay Hanson's dieoff.org which pointed to Tom Robertson's energyresources group and then Matt Savinar came and posted an announcement to come visit his new site.

Which led, of course, to peakoil.com here. From here, on to energybulletin.net, asponews.org. There are a few more, but these are the main ones.
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Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Wed 05 Jan 2005, 01:31:44

As I said, Lowem, Give it up, here's to swimmin' naked
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Unread postby nocar » Wed 05 Jan 2005, 06:07:26

As guess I learnt that oil is finite already in the 70s, but I checked the 90s because in 1997 I attended a seminar where an expert said "we will have an energy crisis in 2003 at the latest." He said that all the OPEC countries were lying about their reserves to be able to sell more, so you should not believe the official figures. Since that time I have been following the Brent price in the economy section of my paper. For a long while of course the prediction of oil scarcity was totally off.

(Now I believe it was off because their were some economic crises between 1998 and 2005)

Then in summer 2003 I read Heinbergs "The party's over" and became a bit obsessed.

The original seminar in 1998 was in relation to my interest in stopping cars to take over society. Although cars are convenient for the individual, when everyone uses cars for every transport need, society will deteriorate.
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