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how it may all play out

Unread postby LateGreatPlanetEarth » Tue 08 May 2007, 02:55:33

from a christianity viewpoint.
most all christian scholars cite may, 1948 as the start of the final countdown of the current world system.
Christ gave the signs that would take place during the period starting from that date. and He used the term 'generation'. the time representation of that term has been contested mostly from two groups 1. 40 years period group 2. 100 year'ers. a few others have argued for 70 and 80 years. since these signs didn't take place before 1988, most say now the 'generation' refers to 100 years.

therefore, under that interpretation, all this takes place between now and 2048 at the latest. now, a few other things: 1) the signs take place in a 7 year period called the tribulation period which is divided up into 2 halves {the first, unparalleled prosperity; the second, devastation}. 2) the anticrist is the charismatic world leader during the tribulation.

for a person to become a world leader, they need to bring a lot to the table (in the movie the omega code, they portrait him as a person that was gifted in many areas one of which in scientific area and he brought to the world an inexpensive desalination method (a movie idea) and other things including a comprehensive peace treaty to the middle east (biblical requirement).

one possible scenario as to how peak oil and bibical prophecy may be harmonized in this upcoming time period is that this personage brings to the world an virtually unlimited inexpensive, maybe free, source of energy. remember that the 1/2 half of the tribulation is highly prosperous.

anyway, something to think about.
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Re: how it may all play out

Unread postby Waterthrush » Tue 08 May 2007, 06:16:59

Please! "Most" Christian scholars certainly do not begin some kind of countdown from 1948. A few do. Most have learned humility from 2000 years of calling for countdowns. I can list a number of major ones off the top of my head: The emperor Nero's prosecutions, Constantine's supposed gift of property to the church; the long-lasting schisms of the middle ages; the Reformation; Napolean's toppling of empires; the convulsions of the 1st half of the 20th century, and the apocalyptic appearance of nuclear weapons. There were a lot more.

I can't even think of what event in 1948 comes near to any of these - was it the founding of the United Nations? Don't forget that Christianity was founded and flourished during a period of (western) world imperial rule by the Romans; if anything, "most" Christian scholars through history have viewed the dissolution of empires and monarchies as signs of the end times. The fall of three different empires in 1918 shook up the world system much more profoundly than anything that happened in 1948.

How about this interpretation: the earth is the Garden of Eden, and we are on the verge of getting ourselves expelled through our own stupidity?
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Re: how it may all play out

Unread postby Aaron » Tue 08 May 2007, 07:35:54

Supreme executive power is derived by a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony
The problem is, of course, that not only is economics bankrupt, but it has always been nothing more than politics in disguise... economics is a form of brain damage.

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Re: how it may all play out

Unread postby Madpaddy » Tue 08 May 2007, 07:43:06

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'f')or a person to become a world leader, they need to bring a lot to the table (in the movie the omega code, they portrait him as a person that was gifted in many areas one of which in scientific area and he brought to the world an inexpensive desalination method (a movie idea) and other things including a comprehensive peace treaty to the middle east (biblical requirement).


This certainly rules out GW Bush as the antichrist. George, I always knew you were one of the good guys.
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Re: how it may all play out

Unread postby Madpaddy » Tue 08 May 2007, 07:46:05

How do you know he's a King.
Because he hasn't got sh*t all over him.
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Re: how it may all play out

Unread postby ohanian » Tue 08 May 2007, 08:06:29

The countdown to the destruction of the physical world started in

70AD with the destruction of the temple of True Religion in Jerusalem and it's replacement with the False Religion of Christ worship.

Because it is a False Religion, it had spawned countless mutated copies of itself ranging from Quakers to the Mormons to various Islams.

But the final countdown will reach it's zenith with the destruction of True Humanity in the True Country of Israel.

With True Humanity dead and dying, the various False Religions will battle each other to the death for the last gasping control of the Physical World thus ensuring that the Prophecy of The End.
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Re: how it may all play out

Unread postby Aaron » Tue 08 May 2007, 08:42:31

Oh but if I went 'round sayin' I was Emperor, just because some moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away.
The problem is, of course, that not only is economics bankrupt, but it has always been nothing more than politics in disguise... economics is a form of brain damage.

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Re: how it may all play out

Unread postby Sheb » Tue 08 May 2007, 09:16:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ohanian', 'T')he countdown to the destruction of the physical world started in

70AD with the destruction of the temple of True Religion in Jerusalem and it's replacement with the False Religion of Christ worship...
...With True Humanity dead and dying, the various False Religions will battle each other to the death for the last gasping control of the Physical World thus ensuring that the Prophecy of The End.


Gentlemen,

Can we please drop the My-God-Can-Beat-Up-Your-God debate?

There are countless other forums on the web for that kind of stuff.
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Re: how it may all play out

Unread postby vision-master » Tue 08 May 2007, 09:26:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'o')ne possible scenario as to how peak oil and bibical prophecy may be harmonized in this upcoming time period is that this personage brings to the world an virtually unlimited inexpensive, maybe free, source of energy. remember that the 1/2 half of the tribulation is highly prosperous.


Them dudes from outerspace are willing to help us - it's up to us to ask, instead of firing Missiles at em or chasing em around with our pathetic jet fighters.
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Re: how it may all play out

Unread postby roccman » Tue 08 May 2007, 10:20:18

You mean the dudes from outerspace that made this in 04...??

http://bp0.blogger.com/_24jTvWFlW_8/RiW ... 2004-2.jpg
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Re: how it may all play out

Unread postby vision-master » Tue 08 May 2007, 10:41:31

Yeah, them guy's! :smile:
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Re: how it may all play out

Unread postby AirlinePilot » Thu 10 May 2007, 01:20:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aaron', 'O')h but if I went 'round sayin' I was Emperor, just because some moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away.


"You cant expect to wield supreme executive power just because some watery tart threw a sword at you!"
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Re: how it may all play out

Unread postby katkinkate » Thu 10 May 2007, 06:07:30

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('roccman', 'Y')ou mean the dudes from outerspace that made this in 04...??

http://bp0.blogger.com/_24jTvWFlW_8/RiW ... 2004-2.jpg


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Re: how it may all play out

Unread postby Madpaddy » Thu 10 May 2007, 07:57:22

Oh! Come and see the violence inherent in the system! Help! Help! I'm being repressed!
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Re: how it may all play out

Unread postby LateGreatPlanetEarth » Thu 10 May 2007, 23:29:38

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Waterthrush', 'I') can't even think of what event in 1948 comes near to any of these - was it the founding of the United Nations?


1948, may: was founding of the modern day state of israel. God story is told thru them.
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Re: how it may all play out

Unread postby Tyler_JC » Thu 10 May 2007, 23:34:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sheb', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ohanian', 'T')he countdown to the destruction of the physical world started in

70AD with the destruction of the temple of True Religion in Jerusalem and it's replacement with the False Religion of Christ worship...
...With True Humanity dead and dying, the various False Religions will battle each other to the death for the last gasping control of the Physical World thus ensuring that the Prophecy of The End.


Gentlemen,

Can we please drop the My-God-Can-Beat-Up-Your-God debate?

There are countless other forums on the web for that kind of stuff.


Not until you bow down to the awesome power of The Omnipotent Flying Spaghetti Monster!!!

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Re: how it may all play out

Unread postby LateGreatPlanetEarth » Thu 10 May 2007, 23:41:31

the start of the last 3 1/2 years of the tribulation commences when this person enters the not yet constructed temple in jerusalem and demands to be worship as God (the tribuation starts when the peace treaty is signed which gurantees israel saftey). the state of israel needed to be reconstituted before the temple is built and the peace treaty signed.
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Re: how it may all play out

Unread postby Eli » Thu 10 May 2007, 23:53:19

Now this is where I think most Christians make a big mistake.

I will admit that I used to make it myself.

Modern day Jerusalem has nothing to do with God. It is worth looking up anti-Zionist Orthodox Jews. They oppose modern day Israel, they believe that it is the Messiah that is to lead them into Jerusalem not men.

Modern day Israel is a secular state.

Modern day Rabbinical Judaism can trace its linage directly back to the Pharisees. Jesus himself consistently rebuked the Pharisees for there legalism and belief in themselves more than God.

Rabbinical Judaism only came into power after the period of Christ and they had followed two false Messiahs. It was after the second false Messiah that the temple was destroyed.

They are not chosen people though they think they are and that goes for the religious and non-religious alike. They have made a nation for themselves and honor themselves more than God. From what I know of God, God really hates that.


What they are is a bunch of arrogant men surrounded by enemies, they fight under their own power and God is not with them. They should be scared as hell.
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