[Judgie]

For my first post on these forums, I decided that i'd like to get some opinions on the degree i'm currently studying for at Flinder's University, South Australia. I've been lurking on these forums for a while now and was particularly impressed with the advice given to uninspired123 in the recent "Feeling Fatalistic" thread, as I was with the disucssions in many others.

Before I ask, i'd like you all to understand that i'm happy with what i'm doing and my life (though i'm working at improving some things ATM, lack of any love-life for one).

So, i have my ideas but am also interested in those of others, as to how and where one could apply a Bachelor of Environmental Management in a post peak-oil world.

Have at me!

[Tanada]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Judgie', 'F')or my first post on these forums, I decided that i'd like to get some opinions on the degree i'm currently studying for at Flinder's University, South Australia. I've been lurking on these forums for a while now and was particularly impressed with the advice given to uninspired123 in the recent "Feeling Fatalistic" thread, as I was with the disucssions in many others.

Before I ask, i'd like you all to understand that i'm happy with what i'm doing and my life (though i'm working at improving some things ATM, lack of any love-life for one).

So, i have my ideas but am also interested in those of others, as to how and where one could apply a Bachelor of Environmental Management in a post peak-oil world.

Have at me!

[basil_hayden]

Get a REAL SCIENCE or ENGINEERING degree....

Enviro management is a waste of your resources, IMHO, you'll just serve the real estate development douchebags.

They'll pay you to say it's OK to fill in the wetlands, for example.

Have fun filling out permits....

[Judgie]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('basil_hayden', 'G')et a REAL SCIENCE or ENGINEERING degree....

Enviro management is a waste of your resources, IMHO, you'll just serve the real estate development douchebags.

They'll pay you to say it's OK to fill in the wetlands, for example.

Have fun filling out permits....

[basil_hayden]

First off, Welcome to the boards, didn't notice your recent arrival.

Second off - Hey, just trying to help in my own stupid way, do what you want, guy.

FYI, I'm in the "business", environmental geologist to be exact, 20 years under my belt, BS in Geology and Geophysics, University of Connecticut. I've been responsible for the recovery of about 40,000 gallons of petroleum from the subsurface to date, and a few gallons of other hazardous materials (OHM for short). My specialty is bedrock groundwater bioremediation, but I'm pretty good in unconsolidated formations also.

As a rule I never hire people with "Enviro Management" degrees or "Natural Resources" degrees, or "Environmental Science" degrees, except for tech work if they can follow direction. I want people with hard science (geology, biology, chemistry) and engineering degrees behind them to actually solve problems instead of dicking around with "consensus makers". But that's just me, your mileage may vary. I do not believe that the solution to pollution is dilution, but destruction. I recognize that destruction is not always possible, in fact at some sites it's technically impracticable.

Since I am responsible for site remediation, the only developers I work with are those willing to redevelop impacted properties, such as brownfields. I don't enable the development of open space like most wetlands scientists I know.

As an aside, don't you see the disconnect between the oil and gas and mining industries and environmental health and safety? All you're doing is enabling more environmental destruction while the workers are "safe" (not the environment). Working for the government isn't my cup of tea either; they enable destruction, too.

I like ozzies in general, but there's no reason to get your panties in a bunch on the internet. I'll continue to shoot my mouth off about things I have a depth of knowledge in, and I'll listen and learn when I know I'm over my head. I'd advise the same for you.


If you don't want advice, why the hell did you post the question in the first place? Australia = desert drought lately, correct? You ought to concentrate on permaculture, which can be found discussed here in just about any of Ludi's posts.

I've learned a lot from Ludi. Carry on...

[Judgie]

Hmmmm, all your points taken and i apologise for any offence I might have caused. HOWEVER, your initial post was not written in a tone that one would take in the way you intended and that is what certainly happened. Your second post however is how the first should have been written tone-wise IMHO. However, as you told me to do, do what you like .

As for changing degree, I could change, but I've done that once already (a year ago, moved over from doing I.T.) and i'm not going to go through that again. I guess when the shit hits the fan i'll be in the same boat with everyone else.

BTW, yes we are in drought at the moment, the worst we've had as a nation in quite a while. Fortunately recent weeks have resulted in just enough rainfall for the local (South Australian) farmers to sow their crops. The other problem is the condition of the River Murray, namely it's high and rising salinity. It's reached the point now where downstream cattle graziers in the Lake Alexandrina area are having to sell off their stock en masse, and some are trying to get into alternate fields of work. My father will be helping one to firm up his resume tonight. For some, it really is that bad down here, and it's only a small amount of time till the costs flow on to the aussie consumer.

[basil_hayden]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Judgie', 'H')mmmm, all your points taken and i apologise for any offence I might have caused. HOWEVER, your initial post was not written in a tone that one would take in the way you intended and that is what certainly happened. Your second post however is how the first should have been written tone-wise IMHO. However, as you told me to do, do what you like .