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My Post At Spengler's Forum

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Wed 02 May 2007, 19:32:12

I brought up this issue at Spengler's forum at atimes.com about a year ago. I thought I try it again and see what the response might be. Here is the post:

There is an interesting line spoken by Leonardo Di Caprio's character in the movie Blood Diamond about the events that took place in Sierra Leone. He said, 'God left this place a long time ago'. Spengler's faith is a fine thing and it leads him to solid insights about modernity. But I recall what he said a year ago when I brought up the peak oil situation: 'it's not the end of everything, it's just the end of you'. Well a year has come and gone and the news is getting grimmer by the month. Canceled energy projects around the globe because of rapidly escalating cost overruns. Blackouts in many third world countries. Declining oil production in Mexico and Kuwait. The situation is rapidly approaching critical. So what does this mean? It means we have been living like yeast in a vat of grape juice. Grow until you can't grow anymore. Then die. God is nowhere around. Nature is scowling, a menacing presence that's going to have the last word.

I wonder if Spengler will respond to this and what he might say if he does.
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Re: My Post At Spengler's Forum

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Thu 03 May 2007, 21:29:18

Looks like Spengler isn't going to respond this time. Too bad, I'd like to hear what his religious mind has to say about this. To me, God has abandoned us.
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Re: My Post At Spengler's Forum

Unread postby Jack » Thu 03 May 2007, 21:55:34

If we suppose:

1) God is good.

2) Heaven is good.

Then, moving people from physical existence to heaven is good. And a good God would want to do that.

Therefore, the dieoff is God's way of making the world a better place and giving everyone a chance to go to a better existence.

:lol:

Here's a link you might find interesting. I know it caused me to do some thinking.

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Re: My Post At Spengler's Forum

Unread postby peaker_2005 » Thu 03 May 2007, 23:49:03

There's also the fact that a truly loving God would NOT protect people from the consequences of their own actions - which essentially, peak oil is - sure, there's a geological reality element, too, but there's a pretty good reason why a loving God would not provide infinite resources:

We'd never realise how unwise our actions are, just how bad the seeds are that we've sown. The current batch of "seeds" will prove to be weeds, and that will not be a fun experience.

There is of course another possibility - that we're on the brink of Armageddon.
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Re: My Post At Spengler's Forum

Unread postby NEOPO » Fri 04 May 2007, 01:18:20

I find it all terribly ironic.
"his religious mind" followed by "god has abandoned us".
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I am sorry but I cant help but laugh as it is part of my therapy :lol:
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Re: My Post At Spengler's Forum

Unread postby Newsseeker » Fri 04 May 2007, 08:26:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jack', 'I')f we suppose:

1) God is good.

2) Heaven is good.

Then, moving people from physical existence to heaven is good. And a good God would want to do that.

Therefore, the dieoff is God's way of making the world a better place and giving everyone a chance to go to a better existence.

:lol:

Here's a link you might find interesting. I know it caused me to do some thinking.

LINK


First we've got to convert them all to Hinduism and have them meditate so they aren't reincarnated but instead go to Krishnaloka. Paradise here we come circa 2030!!!
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