[NEOPO]

Walk with me and let us think of the purpose.
In no particular order:

PO relates to everything as pretty much everything depends on Oil or other hydrocarbons.

It is only opinion that any of these side issues are more relevant then the others.

It is evident that when faced with PO neoconic types will choose to fight while others may choose to organize and cooperate so the message is not as important as the ideas of whats causing the problems and what to do about them.

By displaying the PO message only I feel we are attracting more of the wrong kind of people and dispelling the right kind of people.
Wrong = fighting for resources.
Right = powering down, peaceful transition etc etc.

Why do I question this?
Because I see the lack of participation and the stand offishness of the higher ups on critical subjects and it makes me cringe.

Because I know many fear PO being seen as a CT yet hell folks that is what it is to most people before they try to disprove it.
And just because they get it does not mean they are going to do anything right about it.
They may hoarde or buy some guns etc etc....

I think we would attract more of the Right kind of people by not being so strict in our approach but then again many consider me a wingnut like Raphael so this thread will probably be deleted and or degraded to the point where I will later wish I had said nothing.

Maybe there is something I am missing?
Please enlighten me if that be the case.

[Plantagenet]

I think the purpose of this GREAT Peak Oil site is already very nicely set out by the folks who set it up. In their "About us" link at the left, they write:

"Greetings,

PO.com is a privately funded website, and has no affiliation with any group, business or other interest group.

Publishing at this domain has two primary benefits:

1. The preferred Domain Name for what we feel will become the most important debate of humanity.

2. Building on online community to enrich this debate.

The supporting staff are 100% volunteers from around the globe, and receive no compensation of any kind.

Our agenda is as simple as our slogan:

"Exploring the Issue of Hydrocarbon Depletion"

[PenultimateManStanding]

I'm not sure what you are trying to say here, NEO. I appreciate you coming to my defense in that other thread. But this is something I've been meaning to say for awhile: I'm not an advocate for any course of action. When I see resource wars on the horizon, I'm just speaking my mind on what I think will happen. What else can happen in overshoot? What else can happen when billions are dying? It's a mad situation, but now we even have the GAO sounding the alarms. Any intelligent person can read between the lines in that report.

[Rock_solid_bacon]

Hey, thanks for all your posts NEO, and I know you can't go on like this. We know they will win every game, but they will loose the match. See you in Oregon.

[gnm]

1. put up PO.com website
2. selflessly slave away for barely enough dollars to pay the bandwidth
3. watch helplessly as PO crushes the life out of the economy
4 ?????
5. $$$ PROFIT!

[Chaparral]

Why do you hate Amurika so bad?

Seriously tho, I see a lot more discussion here on powerdown and cooperation and the "paradigm" rather than being the lone survivalist in the MRE filled bunker compared to say, 2004 when I first started lurking. Jack created an excellent poll that I thought would lead more towards generating the powerdown type thinking on the scale of say, a historically precedented public policy rathern than fuzzy idealistic whining. The topic is big, interdisciplinary and is still maturing: I'd give it time. Superduper linky goodness to Jack's most excellent poll





Oh, and I don't think either you or Raphael are wingnuts. A wingnut is easy to grasp and unscrew with merely a thumb and a forefinger. You two'd need a can of WD-40 and a pair of visegrips

[dinopello]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', 'P')O relates to everything as pretty much everything depends on Oil or other hydrocarbons.

[simontay78]

I strongly believe that PO.com serve as a research center, a knowledge bank or a bible or community of like minded people to share experiences and skill set in an event of resource depletion.

The positive side is we are able to know the full impact earlier then the denial group and able to be prepared earlier...for power down, alternative and survival skills upgrade.

The negative side is those people who took the knowledge with individualistic intention and only to help themselves and not others...those people who does not form communities but barricade themselves with weapons and extra guard duty schedules...instead of sharing their skills of growing food with hungry hoards...they protect their food to the last breath.

Anyway people can have their own opinions about how to survive PO but unfortunately with weapons (guns) proliferate many countries...there are no right or wrong solutions...

We can only be happy that we are prepared regardless how we prepare....haiz.

Just be positive and don't go crazy and start shooting everyone!!

[killJOY]

Entertainment, nothing more.

I'm already prepared as I'll ever be. I'll never meet anyone I "chat" with here.

when the lights go out, so does PO.com


For example, the tropical storm that hit last Monday put us out of commission until an hour ago--no electricity.

did just fine.

[NEOPO]

I hear you all and yeah I do see the points.

This site is excellent, no if's and's or but's about it and I think the volunteer mod's do a great job usually.
Planted agent doesnt know me so of course he/she/it would post the about us section

Dinopello a CT is a conspiracy theory or theorist.
An example of how the higher ups stand down on many subjects could be the 120 page 911 thread and the obvious lack of participation by most mods.

Now dont you think Monte or Aaron or any of the rest have a good idea about 911 and its interconnectivity to PO regardless of what really happened that day?

I know whats done is done yet....

I know, PMS, all these things seem obvious yet does that mean we should fear them or avoid the subject all together?
Not enough can be said about silence IMHO.

Now here is where my own experiences may have biased my thinking and I am fully aware of this possibility.
I threw everything related to PO at one of my relatives yet once she saw Loose Change it hit her like a brick.
She said "you knew this all along didnt you?" as if I knew 911 was related from the start and that using it would be the ticket into her mind.

Of course I didnt know this and had only begun to see the connection myself.

From my own experiences it was the hard hitting posts of Monte, Aaron and webpages like LATOC that grabbed me by the booboo and forced me to pay attention.

So I am saying that we should not assume things are so obvious and we should not treat PO like some sacred cow.

I keep recalling Aarons "america's gruesome jewelry" and the affect the thread had on me. I cant get it out of my mind!!!
Damn you Aaron!

I keep thinking I have it all figured out an then some more shit hits me.....

I dont know, maybe we should use kid gloves on the sheeple yet it did not work for me or mine, looks like time is running out and when the sheeple "get it" most will just try to build suburbia out of mud

Maybe its just that I want to help rather then hurt yet I often find myself conflicting and feeling as if I am standing on the wrong side of "the line" looking around wondering why I am the only one standing on the other side of "the line"!!!!

Chaparral -

[PenultimateManStanding]

I don't think you are going to like what's coming down, NEO. I don't even think Jack is going to like it. Maybe PolestaR will like it, but I doubt it.

[blukatzen]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')aybe its just that I want to help rather then hurt yet I often find myself conflicting and feeling as if I am standing on the wrong side of "the line" looking around wondering why I am the only one standing on the other side of "the line"!!!!

Chaparral -

[NEOPO]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('blukatzen', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')aybe its just that I want to help rather then hurt yet I often find myself conflicting and feeling as if I am standing on the wrong side of "the line" looking around wondering why I am the only one standing on the other side of "the line"!!!!

Chaparral -

[blukatzen]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')hank you for that dear. You have moved me.

[NEOPO]

Actually as you were typing this reply I was probably submitting my yahoo registration

Yeah a big teddy bear with mushroom cloud eyes and freddy kruger finger nails!

[blukatzen]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', 'A')ctually as you were typing this reply I was probably submitting my yahoo registration $this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')
**And I welcomed you with open arms. There are others there with those same open arms. Time to build the tribe.

[Newsseeker]

I would like to believe in a peaceful powerdown for this nation and humanity in general but with the peak either here or at the most a few years away I see nothing being done for a problem that requires decades of preparation. There is very little that the PO community can do while it remains marginalized outside the mainstream but when PO becomes mainstream it will be too late for anything to be done. Given these facts I have become a proud doomer. Nothing else will fit.

[NEOPO]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newsseeker', 'I') would like to believe in a peaceful powerdown for this nation and humanity in general but with the peak either here or at the most a few years away I see nothing being done for a problem that requires decades of preparation. There is very little that the PO community can do while it remains marginalized outside the mainstream but when PO becomes mainstream it will be too late for anything to be done. Given these facts I have become a proud doomer. Nothing else will fit.

[Aaron]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'I') think the purpose of this GREAT Peak Oil site is already very nicely set out by the folks who set it up. In their "About us" link at the left, they write:

"Greetings,

PO.com is a privately funded website, and has no affiliation with any group, business or other interest group.

Publishing at this domain has two primary benefits:

1. The preferred Domain Name for what we feel will become the most important debate of humanity.

2. Building on online community to enrich this debate.

The supporting staff are 100% volunteers from around the globe, and receive no compensation of any kind.

Our agenda is as simple as our slogan:

"Exploring the Issue of Hydrocarbon Depletion"

[NEOPO]

Oh wow, I had been waiting for this post but its definately not what I expected yet that too will change with time.
Great expectations are the biggest let downs.

Right, right, and my name is NEOPO and I am all about the matrix movie and how it pertains to PO.....

Planted agent was the one who saw my swastika and went directly to nazi, do not pass go, do not collect $200....and should I even mention that he/she is propping up the book "looming towers" in the 911 thread which is nothing but a boogey man terr'ist reinforcing bunch of neocon propaganda...
Nope doesnt really matter. As long as I do not forget how I got here I will not forget the way out.

I do not believe all is well all long the watchtower and I think when its all said and done there are going to be alot of regrets for what might have been yet that is simply how it goes I suppose.

Ultimately I am thankful for those of you who understand what I am saying and especially those who attempted to comfort me through this so no I do not regret this thread.
Thanks for the space Aaron.
<heads to the nearest PO temple to give offerings to the sacred PO cow>