[MattSavinar]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jack', 'G')ood news depends, I think, upon perspective.

If I say: Oil is in a strong uptrend.

It's bad - gasoline costs more, energy costs more, the economy slows.

It's good - certain investments appreciate.

Now, let us suppose that the more dire forecasts are true. Our civilization - the world we live in - enters an era of crushing decline. Certainly it's bad; fewer amenities, fewer goods, a poorer lifestyle in every way. Probably a shorter life, too.

But...it's good too. Yes. I, for one, am tired of globalization. Peak Oil should end that. I find ever more intrusive government, more homogenized mass media, and more aggressive political correctness annoying. I think Peak Oil will change that, too.

I remember a time when I could only receive three channels of television - but I found more to enjoy than I do on the 500+ channels I have now.

I think we are so buried in the effluvia of our affluence that we are deprived of the enjoyment of the things we acquired. We cannot stir the abundance with a stick. Perhaps you remember a time when you had to save to get something. The purchase was deferred for weeks, perhaps months, as the anticipation grew. Now, we grab something, put it on the plastic, attend to it for 30 minutes (or less), and toss it aside to gather dust.

When was the last time any of us really savored a strawberry? No, I don't mean gulping it down, followed up with a chaser, after which we say "yeah, whatever" and make two calls on the cell phone. I mean eating small bites and really tasting it. Can anyone even remember the last time? I thought not.

How much time do any of us have to get to know...anyone? No, we're much too busy.

So, you see, it's really all in the perspective.

[EnergyUnlimited]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MattSavinar', '
')Jack,

Once again, well said.

I will reiterate: it's a shame we will have to meet in mortal combat post-peak.

[Iaato]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AirlinePilot', 'A') sunrise viewed from my cockpit is one of those "moments" which I really relish now. I'm one of few human beings who gets to see it like we do. I know lots of folks travel, but there is something awe inpsiring about viewing it from up front, with a big window, versus out of the passenger ones.

[Pops]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Iaato', 'B')ut you've got to take that final step from talking endlessly about when peak is going to be. Make that mental shift to committing to a new way. This board spends a stupendous amount of energy on hashing, rehashing, and mohashing when peak is. Enough already.

[Jack]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergyUnlimited', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MattSavinar', '
')
No, you will both meet each other in labour camp run by Blackwater mercenaries.

[Zardoz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jack', 'I') could go to work as a concentration camp guard. I'd enjoy my work.... I have some energy-efficient ideas, best not posted here...

[lateStarter]

AP,

I'd suggest buying some land in Tennessee and developing it as bugout place while advertising it as 'vacation' getaway location to the curious friends and family. You will feel much better once you do. And try to get out here as much as possible and actually do something that aligns with what you see coming. You have the income, use it wisely! I'm sure you can hire a caretaker to look after the property while you are away.

Forget about 'good' news. I'd also recommend forgetting about 'real' news too. Don't get caught with your pants down. I think that people who know what is coming and do nothing about it will fare worse mentally than those that don't have a clue and wake up one day to find that their world has ended. You will hate yourself for not having tried when you had the chance.

Like the rest of us who are making some moves in that direction, we will to a large degree probably fail due to circumstances beyond our control, but at least you won't go to your grave regretting not having tried...

[Snowstorm]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')I would love to hear some good news though for a change. Maybe a few hundred billion bbl field found in our backyard? Or a few large exploration success anywhere. It sure seems like the problems are slowly worsening and while we all appear to know about it, the rest of society, the industry, and government run around like the three blind mice. Its like watching a wreck in slow motion.

Is there any good news? Is it possible we push the peak out a few more years with MRC and "reserves growth"?

[NEOPO]

AP started a good thread!

I wonder, when the core values begin to change will issues such as 911 truth become evident or will people like this still cling to comfortable notions? Will they actually be able to function and help others or will they just be asshats in overalls?

[MattSavinar]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergyUnlimited', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MattSavinar', '
')Jack,

Once again, well said.

I will reiterate: it's a shame we will have to meet in mortal combat post-peak.

[MattSavinar]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jack', '
')
Yes, that's true. We probably will.

I could go to work as a concentration camp guard. I'd enjoy my work. Have you ever been around someone who is really afraid of you? Trembling, eyes down, terrified? There's a feeling of power. It's...almost intoxicating. Have you eaten good, rich food around someone who is being systematically starved? You let them see it. Perhaps even smell it. And you make eye-contact. Take a bite. Chew it. Smile, just a little, but don't let the smile get to your eyes. Keep eating, until you get to the last bite. Look at them again. Then toss it in the mud, just out of their reach, and grind it under your foot. Smile again and walk away. At least, that's the way the magazine article wrote it up.

Matt might not care for the operational end. He might do better in administration - keeping the paper flow going as it should.

He and I can meet over dinner and discuss the good old days, and ways to deal with the influx of prisoners. And, what we'll do with those who are falling below their production quotas. I have some energy-efficient ideas, best not posted here.

[JPL]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AirlinePilot', 'Y')up, misery loves company!

I think actually I will be fine, my knowledge and experience will stand with me once things start down the crapper. I really worry more and more though about the world my children will inherit. I wish I had known sooner, I truly do.

[vision-master]

More bad news. hot off the wire.

School shooting today. 33 dead & 29 injured.

[Jack]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MattSavinar', '
')dude, you just took the joke a bit too far.

[Clouseau2]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Dopamine', 'M')aybe the Hawaiian islands. It's 80 degrees year round with good soil, coffee and fruit, lots of wind for a turbine, lots of sun for PV. If I were financially able I would pick out 5 prime acres on the big island.

[Clouseau2]

Forgot to add the actual point: The problem with living in Hawaii is that except for pineapples and a few local foods, EVERYTHING is imported and the cost of living is skyhigh in Hawaii. Plus electricity costs a bundle too, they burn oil to make it.

When there was a strike by the west coast shippers, there was panic in Hawaii and a run on the stores. I wouldn't list Hawaii as a good place to be for when the SHTF.

[steam_cannon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Clouseau2', 'W')hen there was a strike by the west coast shippers, there was panic in Hawaii and a run on the stores. I wouldn't list Hawaii as a good place to be for when the SHTF.