[Eli]

I feel sorry for you Pen.

I would hate to have your job.

So do play "Don't Stand so Close to ME" by the Police over and over again?

I think we are seeing a serious issue with the hypersexulization of the culture.

I think it was you in another thread that said that denial of the self in favor of the will of the larger society is what is missing today. With that I would have to agree.

Basically what is happening is kids today have no qualms about sex we are all becoming whores and sluts and if it feels good do it seems to be the motto of the day.

I feel bad for ya, you have those attractive young girls who understand and rely on their sexuality far more than they should. A blow job is no longer thought of sex, damn I was born to early.

Anyway what a misery, if you ever act on your thoughts they will hang you. Now if you were a 30 something attractive female and did the same thing they would slap you on the wrist.

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Eli', ' ')A blow job is no longer thought of sex, damn I was born to early.

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', '
')Perhaps if people are exposed to many religions then they wont "fall" for the next egyptian channeler that comes along

[lateralus]

This thread as left a bad taste in my mouth and I have an overwhelming desire to wash my hands right now. I can't explain it.

Thank God I have a large project at work to keep me busy this week. Before I go, I have a present for you PMS.



Now you can't say that I didn't ever give you anything. You can also use it as a life ring incase you ever go overboard again.

[Eli]

Well I wish you the best.

Sex can be a very addictive drug, and the best sex we usually have takes place in our mind. Reality is most times not what we had hoped for.

I can see how it could happen very easily though. Some very attractive girl getting her kicks from turning on the old dude decides to pour it on and the yada yada yada.

Bam! Pen is in the pen because he decided to end it with the crazy 17 year old girl who screwed the football team.

I do disagree on one key point, we now live in a very different world. It used to be you would have to go to Amsterdam to get your Donkey lover porn. Now any sick thing one can think up is a click away. All this has a desensitizing effect on everyone and not for our betterment.

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lateralus', '
')Now you can't say that I didn't ever give you anything. You can also use it as a life ring incase you ever go overboard again.

[Chaparral]

Heh. This thread is funny. It reminds me of a certain Joe Pesci scene.

WRT the issue of high-school (and college) girls, its been known for a long time that many will rub their little asses against teacher's loins to see what financial or transcript rewards they can get out of it. Back in the PC '90s when I was teaching labs as a grad student, we were all pulled aside by a very politically incorrect (for the time) prof and told the modus operandi of some of them. Apparently a few were after those fat sexual harrassment payouts that the litigation-averse departments would roll over and cough up at the first sight of a law firm's letterhead. Needless to say, I and most others valued our own careers over any amount of 18 year old poontangie so we had to 1) always walk in the company of another preferably female faculty member when in the presence of female students and 2) always leave the door to our office open and never counsel any female student without another preferably female faculty member in the room with us and 3) try and avoid teaching the evening classes that would end when no one else would be around to be a witness for us in court. It really was truly Hobbesian. The political machinations that revolved around this nonsense taught me much about life in general. It forced me to continue my warrior-monk mentality well after I should have cast it aside in exchange for developing decent human relationships. We had to walk the straight and narrow and be extremely careful not to give off any of the wrong signals, more so for myself because I was a grave academic threat to just about every other grad student in my area. I suppose if I had ever given in and got caught, I could simply pay the girl off with an "A" and be done with it. Like many of the college aged, I was too full of my own morality at the time to ever consider something so expedient.

[Eli]

Yeah Chaparral

You were a fool, you should have been giving out the A's left and right.

Pen I understand that you have not done anything, which is good but I am not shocked at all by what you are talking about.

Most people are ignorant of what a modern High School is like.

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Chaparral', 'H')eh. This thread is funny. It reminds me of a certain Joe Pesci scene.

[WildRose]

Interesting. If I may add my 2 cents worth:

First of all, there's a big difference between molesting 6-year-olds and finding young women attractive.

It's no secret that in our society (probably most societies) we value youth and the beauty of youth. Very few TV commercials would lead the average male to see an older woman as sexually desirable. Also, in our screwed up society, we have been encouraging young girls to look sexy and older than their years and to use the little bit of power they derive from that. Young girls, as they're maturing, realize that beauty has a certain amount of power over the male gender and it's not surprising that they are flattered when boys/men affirm what they're learning about themselves - that they're becoming pretty, desirable women. This is especially true of young girls who don't see themselves as having any measurable power other than the fact that they are attractive; as they get older and develop more self-worth from the things they accomplish, this changes, at least for some.

Youth is beauty. Evidence of the allure of young women, to men of all ages: at a family gathering for my two sons' birthdays yesterday, we were chatting and having cake and the TV was on, though we weren't watching anything, and there was a car commercial with three young women in bikinis. All male eyes in the room instantly moved to the TV screen for the duration of the commercial, from the teenaged boys to the grandfather. My sister-in-law and I laughed, knowingly. This is not to say that older women aren't beautiful or sexy - of course, they can be, very much so! But how often do we see them portrayed as such?

Of course, there is also the "middle-aged crisis" aspect of all of this. Young women take a guy back to his youthful years, and what better way to dismiss the fact that one is getting older than to engage in fantasy about a younger woman or even get involved with one.

On a personal note, I have resigned myself to the fact that my husband will always find beautiful young women alluring; in a way, I don't think he can help himself. But, as stated earlier, there's a big difference between enjoying looking at someone and acting on a fantasy.

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('WildRose', ' ')Young girls, as they're maturing, realize that beauty has a certain amount of power over the male gender and it's not surprising that they are flattered when boys/men affirm what they're learning about themselves - that they're becoming pretty, desirable women.

[Ayame]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'I')t is interesting to watch people go ballistic over this. You guys talk as if the subject was little children and not 17/18 year olds.

[NEOPO]

Oh this is hilarious. I think I heard PMS' testes crawl up inside and bolt the hatch

Allow me to be completely honest. Its a buncha FN BS PMS.
You know it, I know it and hell THEY might even know it.

There is no specific age any of us are ready for sex and there is nothing to suggest that age difference plays much of a role in the success of a relationship. We all know people who are called "adults" yet act like children We all know people who have had sex before society said it was okay.

Sex in many cultures and in many forms is condoned NP its the judeo christian islamic types who tend to see it as taboo or 1000 other "pretty" yet false lights.
Like the Judeo Talmadic thought that "its ok to screw a little boy as long as it is not LOVE" hmmm sounds like the Spartans doesnt it?

I watched a documentary once that revealed the behavior of a tribe in the amazon who did not disdain even young children from experimenting naturally yet of course there was a divide line but it was no where near the standard of western civilization.
I believe it was more like "old enough to bleed old enough to breed" and even though that may be nothing but a redneck joke to many that was life for most of our ancestors.

Hmmm yet the most recent generations went into overshoot.
Not saying we can go back now or that we should yet there might be something to be gained from the observation.

The whole thing with this thread is that PMS seems unaware that he sits in a seat of power, a very tiny dunce like seat of power yet a seat of power nonetheless and when he has these thoughts he nears what is "the line" to most parents of most "kids".

I just loved giving ya hell PMS yet honestly and with much conviction since I actually do have an 18 year old daughter to consider, it wouldnt bother me a bit, she would probably chew you up and spit you back out a worthless husk of a man who would remember her name eternally

Then again it could be true love and who am I to decide who she is to love?

Right now she wants to goto california and meet some punk from the internets!!! yet I calmly cooly asked her please make him come to you first, see if he really wants to meet ya etc etc. After that and I get a chance to give him the robert de niro "eye am watching you" treatment all should be well
I fondly recall the memories of meeting my wife and getting to know her family especially her uncle who said and I quote "if you ever harm a hair on her head I will personally track you down and break your fucking neck"

I might try something like that and maybe a grillin' about PO, CLIMATE CHANGE, RESOURCE WAR and what he plans to do about it now that my daughter is in his life

So anyways yer off the hook as far as the marquee is concerned.
Yer still fucked in the head about many things but I wouldnt let the narrow western view of sex bother you too much
Man i could have gotten alot of mileage out of this yet fun is fun, I dont like to see things squirm.

Don't Stand So Close To Me

[PenultimateManStanding]

thank you for sharing your interesting thoughts, NEO. And yeah, I suppose it is pretty much just BS. Chalk it up to a midlife thing as WildRose suggested. Her wisdom is very fine. The pretty girls are quite safe with me. The 'thoughtcrime' aspect of this is quite striking.

[NEOPO]

My pleasure.
No shit man. still watching those reruns of "24" ?
You did not expect what you may perceive as your greatest PO forum enemy coming to your aid like that did you?

My wife and myself talk about this alot. How this society seems to be telling our children to kill kill kill but dont have sex or make love.

I dont fear for these girls bodies as much as I fear for their minds as you must know we are teaching them lies.

I also do not figure you will agree with that statement like SPG wont agree that the medical establishment is poisoning people with ill medications or like Zardoz wont agree that GWB is just a puppet playing the part of Idiot Savant but I do have some hope that you will one day realize the truth

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', '
')I dont fear for these girls bodies as much as I fear for their minds as you must know we are teaching them lies.