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NPR does PO

Postby whatpeak » Tue 02 May 2006, 15:54:17

There was a report on NPR's Morning Edition by San Diego's own Scott Horsley on PO. He presented both sides with Matt Simmons and Daniel Yergin.

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Re: NPR does PO

Postby killJOY » Tue 02 May 2006, 16:11:23

It was hideous.

Just another example of lazy, non-commital, "balanced," "journalism."

Presenting contradictions now poses as "objectivity."


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Re: NPR does PO

Postby seldom_seen » Tue 02 May 2006, 16:27:28

I heard it too. What killjoy said.
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Re: NPR does PO

Postby bart » Tue 02 May 2006, 18:28:56

Here's another way to look at it.

Simmons and Peak Oil was highlighted -- the meme is being disseminated.

They had to put Yergin in to make the piece acceptable. Besides Yergin is not a dummy. Agree with him or not, he's a significant authority in energy policy. If I remember correctly, he does foresee a peak... just much farther into the future than most of us would.

As a new worldview spreads, there's a place for the bland NPR pieces, just as there's a place for Matt Savinar and James H. Kunstler.
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Re: NPR does PO

Postby Windmills » Wed 03 May 2006, 11:38:09

I don't know if it was the audio file or another Yergin comment from somewhere else, but I recall him coming up with 114% as the current discovery/usage ratio. Where did that number come from? I thought we were using several times as much oil per year as we're finding.
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Re: NPR does PO

Postby MattSavinar » Fri 05 May 2006, 19:42:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('bart', 'H')ere's another way to look at it.

Simmons and Peak Oil was highlighted -- the meme is being disseminated.

They had to put Yergin in to make the piece acceptable. Besides Yergin is not a dummy. Agree with him or not, he's a significant authority in energy policy. If I remember correctly, he does foresee a peak... just much farther into the future than most of us would.

As a new worldview spreads, there's a place for the bland NPR pieces, just as there's a place for Matt Savinar and James H. Kunstler.


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Re: NPR does PO

Postby thuja » Fri 05 May 2006, 20:34:29

My wives will be hotter than your wives; and they'll feed me chocolate nibblies whenever I want them.... so there.
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Re: NPR does PO

Postby LadyRuby » Fri 05 May 2006, 20:58:37

Wives as in plural? Let me guess, one of them will be Angelina Jolie? And maybe Jessica Simpson? You guys are spending way too much time in fantasyland. My bet is between the two of you, you could handle one wife. Maybe.
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Re: NPR does PO

Postby willjones4 » Fri 05 May 2006, 21:05:09

One wife is too many and several are not enough!
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Re: NPR does PO

Postby mekrob » Fri 05 May 2006, 21:21:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') don't know if it was the audio file or another Yergin comment from somewhere else, but I recall him coming up with 114% as the current discovery/usage ratio. Where did that number come from? I thought we were using several times as much oil per year as we're finding.


The discovery/usage rate is 1/4 or less. The additional ~70% comes from reserve growth, which cannot last forever as it depends on existing fields, which guess what? are full of limits.
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The genius of National Public Radio

Postby I_Like_Plants » Sun 15 Apr 2007, 03:24:16

The genius of NPR is that, they play the same shit over about 3 times a day! The reason this is genius is, during the average 14-18 hour insane workday one works in the 'Merkan workfarm, if one has their radio on when/where they can, all day/night, they can catch a good part of it once.

That is all.
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Re: The genius of National Public Radio

Postby TommyJefferson » Sun 15 Apr 2007, 08:18:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('I_Like_Plants', 'T')he genius of NPR is that, they play the same shit over about 3 times a day!


I really don't see that. Some days my alarm clock comes on at 6am with NPR, I listen to it in the shower, then in my car on the way to work, then in my office all day, then on the ride home, then through my patio speakers while I'm working outside all evening.

The only repeats are Morning Edition. Everything else is pretty much original content every day. The amount of content they generate is impressive.

The Discovery Channels really do run things three times a day. It is a good business model, but annoying if I'm stuck indoors due to crummy weather and ALL the same programs are on at 11pm that were on at 7pm.
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Re: The genius of National Public Radio

Postby killJOY » Sun 15 Apr 2007, 08:23:07

NPR is a fountain of <b>shit</b>, with classical music as background noise.

They play, with a straight face, the most inane, most pointless drivel imaginable. "DO YOU REALIZE HOW MUCH CHINESE SMOKE CIGARETTES? WANNA HEAR THE SOUNDS ON A SOUTH DAKOTA PIG FARM? OOOH LOOK AT THIS NEW SPORTING EVENT."

If they had commercials, I wouldn't listen at all.
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Re: The genius of National Public Radio

Postby Newsseeker » Sun 15 Apr 2007, 08:55:58

NPR is in a league all by itself. Their reporting and coverage is top notch and they have even given a little air time to PO. Can't complain even if Morning Edition is repeated.
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Re: The genius of National Public Radio

Postby Laughs_Last » Sun 15 Apr 2007, 12:58:42

What gets played on air, and when, is decided by each local NPR affiliate station. Stations with less local funding tend to play more classical music because the news programs must be purchased from the national providers or produced locally.

If you want better programming, send them more money.
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Re: The genius of National Public Radio

Postby Plantagenet » Sun 15 Apr 2007, 13:17:46

NPR isn't short of money. In addition to the federal subsidy and the
local support they get from businesses and listeners who donate to the affiliate stations, they just received an enormous grant of hundreds of millions of dollars from a foundation.

NPR uses the giant grant to send radio reporters all over the world to collect those 2 minute radio stories on cigarette smokers coughing in China and the poor service at beach resorts in Bali (the NPR reporters seem to do a LOT OF STORIES on tropical beach resorts in the winter).
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Re: The genius of National Public Radio

Postby Laughs_Last » Sun 15 Apr 2007, 14:16:45

The national NPR (and PRI) gets 2% of its funding from the federal government, including annually renewed grants. 98% is from donations and fees paid by local affiliates. They do get lots of money, and spend it all.

The programming you get from a local affiliate station depends mostly on local funding. They buy the programming that you hear from money raised locally, from private and business donations, from state and local grants, and a small percentage from federal grants. If your local station has poor programming, it's because they have poor local funding.
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Re: The genius of National Public Radio

Postby Plantagenet » Sun 15 Apr 2007, 14:54:27

Discussions of NPR funding shouldn't ignore the fact that NPR gets millions of dollars from various foundations, including this huge 200 million dollar grant from the Kroc Foundation.

http://kuat.org/press/story.cfm?ID=83&Source=Greer

They are very well funded indeed.
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Re: The genius of National Public Radio

Postby Zardoz » Sun 15 Apr 2007, 15:19:13

I pretty much listen strictly to NPR when I'm driving. It's hard to find anything else worth listening to. Zillions of commercial stations, and virtually all of them are pure junk.
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Re: The genius of National Public Radio

Postby I_Like_Plants » Mon 16 Apr 2007, 02:57:04

Wow - answers! Really, that's about all I wanted to say..... I find myself only able to catch all of a day's NPR, or most of it, by listening to a radio all day, I'm often only catching up on the morning program etc when it repeats past midnight, that sort of thing.

NPR has new stuff each day. I think it's great - yes you have to realize they're Corpmedia like everything else we're allowed in the US, but it's far better than the OTHER crap. And NPR here does repeat a few of each day's shows, the early afternoon thing is repeated in late evening, that sort of thing.

They seem to know, of course they would, that Americans work insane hours.
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