[Cynus]

It recently struck me that what most multiculturalists mean by "multiculturalism" is really monoculturalism. For example, Japan is an extremely sexist society. I doubt any self-described multiculturalists would want sexist cultures included in their list of acceptible cultures. The same goes for female genital mutilation practiced in Africa, or forcing women to wear the burka or headscarf in the middle east. And forget about historical cultures. Most of the cultural practices of the Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, middle ages Europe, ante-bellum southern US, and just about any other historical society would be found abhorrent. Plus, most multiculturalists I know never cease to rail at the "soulless homogenized suburbs" or rural redneck hicks. Just face it, to liberals, so-called multiculturalism is really a early 21st century, western, urban, upper-middle class liberal monoculturalism. It mostly amounts to urban hipsters and yuppies desiring many choices of restaurants.
Furthermore, what is the relationship between multiculturalists and the multiple cultures they purport to love? Clearly a multiculturalist purports to like all of the multiple cultures that make up the diversity they demand to be celebrated whether they be Muslim, Japanese, Chinese, Somali, African-American, etc. Oddly enough, however, none of these cultures are themselves multi-cultural. Japan for example is fiercely protective of its culture, as are most other cultures in the world. So do multiculturalists advocate we all adopt multiculturalism as our ethic? If so, multiculturalism advocates changing the cultures they purport to respect. If multiculturalism wants all these cultures to change and to adopt a common culture, in what sense is it multi-cultural and not monocultural? If multiculturalists are not urging that all people adopt multiculturalism and that instead people retain their culture, what exactly is multiculturalism advocating? That people remain mono-cultural and not multicultural? If everyone behaves multicultural, and enjoys all types of foods, all ethnic festivals, adopts all religious beliefs, enjoys all types of music and visual arts--in other words, if they abandon their culture--multiculturalism ends up destroying all the cultures it purports to protect.
My suspicion is that liberal multiculturalists really want everyone else to remain monocultural while they aristocratically float above them all and want to reserve the multicultural perspective and elitist moral and aesthetic superiority and sense of freedom they feel for themselves.

[Newsseeker]

It's exotic flavors with Western window dressing. If you color outside of the lines then you get in trouble. Liberal is as liberal does.

[holmes]

Exactly Cynus! its a cheap energy induced utopia this Multicultural abomination. The people that demand it and force it upon thier children are an abberition. A phantom within the phantom carrying capacity. Short term humanoids that will not be here for much longer as oil goes bye bye. Here for one second gone in a second. They are kinda like a side show freak show at a circus. They are more oil based than most.

[holmes]

also I really dont think many are grounded individuals. All the ones I know are "floating on the wind" so to speak. Wispy. Not much substance. really tho they must not have much identity or culture of their own to want all the cultures in the world to basically "rape" them. Hollow and lost it seems. very sad tortured souls.

[holmes]

Yes it is truly an elitist entitled spoiled attitude they have. It also might be a power mad egoist issue in there as well as you stated. They really want to dominate and subdue and dictate it seems. Thats an understatement!
If you only knew the multicult personalities I have come in contact with over time. I have just observed and never argued. I just keep logs up in the ole cranial cinder block here!

[Cynus]

Just to be clear, I love cultural diversity. Whenever I see traditional cultures abandon their birthright for cheap western crap I go crazy. Whenever I see footage from Africa or Asia and everyone is wearing polo shirts and khakis like they just walked out of the Gap, it makes me nauseous. I love the Japanese for their attempts to maintain their culture. The thought of everyone on Earth dressing the same, speaking the same, listening to the same music, watching the same movies, eating the same food, having the same religious beliefs, having the same values and tastes, is a nightmare.

[Plantagenet]

The multiculturalists see a multicultural USA as an friendly international food fair, where exotic friendly people in quaint costumes do folk dances and serve them unusual foods.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '
')"When will the colored races ever come to appreciate my benevolent wisdom? I only want what is right for them and their kind. I know what is best for them because I got education and the like, and these people speak godless languages that have nothing to say 'chatter, chatter, chatter'."

"Why are they not happy doing the menial jobs I offer them? Why are they restless and everseeking? Is it their vital fluids? Have they been besmirched with disease?"

[Cynus]

pstarr is right to point out racism where he sees it, but I've tried to present an argument and I think it's free from racism. I'd be happy for him to point out problems with that argument, but I haven't seen such a criticism yet.

[I_Like_Plants]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('holmes', 'E')xactly Cynus! its a cheap energy induced utopia this Multicultural abomination. The people that demand it and force it upon thier children are an abberition. A phantom within the phantom carrying capacity. Short term humanoids that will not be here for much longer as oil goes bye bye. Here for one second gone in a second. They are kinda like a side show freak show at a circus. They are more oil based than most.

[Cynus]

"kind, generous, fair, just, even-handed, intelligent, humble, sweet, loving and free" OK, cool. I'm down with that (although I have my suspicion that were we to start a discussion on exactly what fairness entails, or what justice entails, or what intelligence requires we'd be off to the races again).

[I_Like_Plants]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'T')he multiculturalists see a multicultural USA as an friendly international food fair, where exotic friendly people in quaint costumes do folk dances and serve them unusual foods.

[Plantagenet]

The obsession with skin color is very misguided.

Multiculturalism vs. monoculturalism is about culture.

The US has alwasy been multicultural, but most people who come to the US buy into the ideal of a shared liberal, democratic, secular culture with a capitalist economy where folks could be left alone to raise their families as they wanted and to try to live well and even get rich.

[Cynus]

I'm not sure about guilt. I look at America the way a parent looks at their child: it might not be the smartest child, or the prettiest, or the nicest--and you definately wouldn't want all the other childeren to immitate your child, and other children might be better in all sorts of ways--but it's my child and you still should love it and try to correct it in its faults. America has been very naughty for "polluting the world with our corporate big box modern industrial madness" and is going to be spanked hard. Conservatives look at America the way a child looks adoringly at their mommy, and liberals hate their parent and spitefully and resentfully rebel. But guilt? Perhaps ashamed, but I still reserve guilt as the feeling you should only have for things you've personally done wrong.

[I_Like_Plants]

Looking at America as my child.... the only analogy that would hold is America as a child that's a freakishly overgrown kid, some kind of DNA or hormone gone wrong kind of thing, with a voracious appatitite for food and for any other kid it can catch. Leaves a trail of robbed homes, killed, beaten up, or worse, other kids, and it feels sorry for itself and blubbers huge tears if it sits its fat ass on a bee and gets stung.

Imagine the worst child-monster possible, if John Waters and the Coen Brothers etc got together and made the ultimate scary/dangerous/disgusting child movie.

[Cynus]

lol!