$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('aflurry', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Eli', 'T')rue growth will not be able to happen after PO,which we have already passed.
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Decline Curves Motley Fool Article
Re: Decline Curves Motley Fool Article
by sicophiliac » Wed 11 Apr 2007, 01:39:27
The growth model of success will have to be switched out, won't it? I'm not trying to be fruity about it. But it's unlikely that entrepenuerialism will disappear. It's form will change though. On the upslope, growth meant sustainability, on the downslope it can mean destruction. (hell, i can think of many cases where growth meant collapse even on the upside of the curve.)
capital structures will have to change. there should be more interest in things like Open Capital
Actually certian sectors should see huge growth post peak. IE solar cell manufacturing, wind turbine production, clean coal technology, coal to liquids industry (Motley Fools articles seem to hold Sasol (ssl) in pretty high regard), nuclear energy, probably eventually cellulosic biofuels like biobutanol and ethanol. Probably some battery manufacturers who can supply batteries for plug in hybrids, no doubt they will be on the move too.
You doomers should remember people arent going to throw in the towel and happily accept a die off or revert to pre industrial standards of living. There will be tremendous pressure on industry as well as government to fuel alternative energy technology to the max. Even if the alt fuels dont ever replace 100% of what cheap oil did, no doubt even if they filled in the roll of 50% or even 20% your still looking at huge growth.
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Re: Decline Curves Motley Fool Article
by joewp » Wed 11 Apr 2007, 02:05:31
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')You doomers should remember people arent going to throw in the towel and happily accept a die off or revert to pre industrial standards of living. There will be tremendous pressure on industry as well as government to fuel alternative energy technology to the max. Even if the alt fuels dont ever replace 100% of what cheap oil did, no doubt even if they filled in the roll of 50% or even 20% your still looking at huge growth.
')You doomers should remember people arent going to throw in the towel and happily accept a die off or revert to pre industrial standards of living. There will be tremendous pressure on industry as well as government to fuel alternative energy technology to the max. Even if the alt fuels dont ever replace 100% of what cheap oil did, no doubt even if they filled in the roll of 50% or even 20% your still looking at huge growth.
Some people just can't seem to accept that "alternative energy" for the most part assumes cheap fossil fuel availability. Tell me sico, how does "industry" plan to transport all the raw materials to build those solar panels and wind turbines when oil starts to become scarce? How do they plan to transport the finished products to the ultimate location without cheap gas or diesel? How does the farmer grow enough whatever weed to turn into ethanol or biodiesel without oil fueled tractors and natural gas fueled refineries?
You're right though. People aren't going to happily accept a die off. That's why I have firearms.
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