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THE Blacklist Thread (merged)

Unread postby CarlinsDarlin » Thu 03 Feb 2005, 16:39:19

Yeah, it's nothing new, but it was interesting to see this on my yahoo news sign in page today - rather than on some alternative press site: link
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Unread postby mindfarkk » Thu 03 Feb 2005, 17:55:48

GWB: public enemy #1.
what, me worry?
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ARE YOU ON THE FBI BLACKLIST? AIRLINES PROVIDED YOUR SS# AND

Unread postby watchdogmovement » Sat 07 Apr 2007, 16:46:45

source http://www.freewebs.com/governmenttarget
(scroll to are you a government target section)

AIRLINES PROVIDED YOUR SS# & PERSONAL DATA TO THE GOVT WITHOUT YOUR CONSENT

Are you on the FBI Blacklist?
Private agencies blackball workers.
Big Business Becoming
Big Brother
By Kim Zetter
Wired News
8-9-4

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he government is increasingly using corporations to do its
surveillance work, allowing it to get around restrictions that protect the
privacy and civil liberties of Americans, according to a report released
Monday by the American Civil Liberties Union, an organization that
works to protect civil liberties.

http://wired.com/news/conflict/0,2100,6 ... _tophead_1

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Re: ARE YOU ON THE FBI BLACKLIST? AIRLINES PROVIDED YOUR SS#

Unread postby AirlinePilot » Sat 07 Apr 2007, 20:51:16

I have nothing to wory about. I'm a paid government disinformant or shill. They would never come after me since they pay me!

Secret agent man. :)
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Re: ARE YOU ON THE FBI BLACKLIST? AIRLINES PROVIDED YOUR SS#

Unread postby Jack » Sat 07 Apr 2007, 21:54:33

Well, I certainly hope I'm on the blacklist. Given the TSA's general demeanor, I think I'd rather be told that I won't be flying than have to put up with their nonsense.

I don't suppose one can self-select? Call up the FBI and get on a waiting list or something?

AirlinePilot, I don't suppose you'd be willing to do the honors, would you? (Just kidding, AirlinePilot, just kidding!) :lol:
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Re: ARE YOU ON THE FBI BLACKLIST? AIRLINES PROVIDED YOUR SS#

Unread postby grabby » Sun 08 Apr 2007, 12:53:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AirlinePilot', 'I') have nothing to wory about. I'm a paid government disinformant or shill. They would never come after me since they pay me!

Secret agent man. :)


Your joking. That's only in the movies.

There is no intelligence in the government agencies.
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Re: ARE YOU ON THE FBI BLACKLIST? AIRLINES PROVIDED YOUR SS#

Unread postby SevenTen » Sun 08 Apr 2007, 15:00:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('grabby', 'T')here is no intelligence in the government agencies.

Of course there is, it's just suppressed. Why else would "they" have outed CIA agent Valerie Plame? Because of the intelligence Joe Wilson, her husband, brought to the table about the bull**** claims of Saddam Hussein recently requesting nuclear material from Niger. Revenge. And a warning to anyone else out there with loose lips and a contrary agenda.

Government has intelligence, pettiness, vindictiveness ... it's like a spoiled, out-of-control child. On crack.

It soon won't matter if the airlines have your social security number. Soon most people won't be able to afford to fly anywhere.
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Re: ARE YOU ON THE FBI BLACKLIST? AIRLINES PROVIDED YOUR SS#

Unread postby Denny » Sun 08 Apr 2007, 15:31:19

Given most Americans concerns about privacy, it surprises me how many places seem to use SS#'s as identifiers. I went to college in the States and it was used as my student number, and where I worked it was used as an employee number.

About 25 years ago, the Canadian government ruled that our veresion, social insurance numbers, which also happen to be nine digits, could not be used for other purposes. Your employer has to invent their own number, etc.

Why should an airline have access to one's social security number? Its not relevant to their needs.

The more places that number appears, the easier it is for a culprit to perform identity theft.
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ISP's To Implement Federal Website Blacklist Mechanism

Unread postby mattduke » Tue 10 Jun 2008, 22:02:01

Verizon, Sprint and Time Warner Cable have agreed to block access to Internet bulletin boards and Web sites nationwide. The mechanism is going in. "It's for the children." NYTimes
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Re: ISP's To Implement Federal Website Blacklist Mechanism

Unread postby cowuvula » Tue 10 Jun 2008, 22:20:49

You won't be around to see it, so no worries.
Be ready...
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Re: ISP's To Implement Federal Website Blacklist Mechanism

Unread postby cowuvula » Tue 10 Jun 2008, 22:29:41

Well, there goes looking up peak oil on any blackberries...
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Re: ISP's To Implement Federal Website Blacklist Mechanism

Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Tue 10 Jun 2008, 23:45:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cbxer55', 'W')hy is it always "For the Children"?


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Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Tue 10 Jun 2008, 23:50:37

Here's a story about it that doesn't require subscribing to the New York Times.
http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_ ... source=rss
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Re: ISP's To Implement Federal Website Blacklist Mechanism

Unread postby arretium » Tue 10 Jun 2008, 23:53:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mattduke', 'V')erizon, Sprint and Time Warner Cable have agreed to block access to Internet bulletin boards and Web sites nationwide. The mechanism is going in. "It's for the children."
NYTimes

I consider myself a libertarian and I'm the biggest proponent of individual rights of anyone I know. I also have a problem with gov't restrictions. But you have to look at this from the ISP perspective. Let's say that they didn't go along. Nasty press. The papers will state that the ISPs want to allow people to access kiddy porn. Not exactly a great thing to have said about your company. And then you got to figure the constituency..who is going to go out there saying we need to protect people's rights to access kiddy porn? No one I know. I don't much care for the restrictions, but the bottom line is that these ISPs are companies and are free to do with their network as they choose.

Given that, I see the slippery slope problem..which isn't the best argument to use if you're trying to argue against this restriction. But it starts with something vile like kiddy porn and then before you know it they will be blocking access to terrorist sites then places to learn how to make a bomb or something like that then... The restriction creep is incremental and slow. It will take a decade or two to play out, if it does. It will be like seat belt laws. First it was just forcing the car companies to put them in the cars. Now if you don't wear one you can be arrested for driving your car without it.
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Re: ISP's To Implement Federal Website Blacklist Mechanism

Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Wed 11 Jun 2008, 00:15:19

How in the bloody hell is it an ISP's business to monitor, much less say regulate, what websites you're allowed to visit? Your ISP is not your mother. The New York AG needs to do his freaking job and arrest the child pornographers not try and turn the ISPs into a nanny service.
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Re: ISP's To Implement Federal Website Blacklist Mechanism

Unread postby cowuvula » Wed 11 Jun 2008, 02:45:20

They dont want to arrest the child porno visitors they would have to be arresting themselves.

They want control of the internet.
Be ready...
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Re: ISP's To Implement Federal Website Blacklist Mechanism

Unread postby virgincrude » Wed 11 Jun 2008, 06:56:38

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cowuvula', 'T')hey dont want to arrest the child porno visitors they would have to be arresting themselves.
They want control of the internet.

That's it in a nutshell. Every time there's a report about some child pornography ring being rounded up, the blame is subliminally placed on the internet, not on the child pornographers or pedophiles. It's a subtle ploy: my mother already thinks the internet is a bad thing because of this. She's 78 and has never been online in her life ...... Same thing with the US and gun restrictions. Now it's called "gun violence" as if the guns acted alone and no crazy person was actually pulling the trigger.

Yesterday the national press here reported on a new law being discussed in the European Parliament which would tighten laws about blogging. A woman responsible for the law said: "there's too much information out there " by way of explanation as to why we need more controls on blogging. Last time somebody felt there was 'too much information out there" they began burning books.

In a few years, we'll be nostalgic about the web as we know it, the screws are being tightened all the time.
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Re: ISP's To Implement Federal Website Blacklist Mechanism

Unread postby Cloud9 » Wed 11 Jun 2008, 07:32:13

Now you are getting it boys and girls. Personal freedom is too dangerous to by enjoyed by the little people. After all, we all know that the average person is an idiot. We can't have them playing with such things as the internet and firearms.

We will tell them that they are free and give them freedom of speach. They have nothing to talk about anyway. Who cares about their stupid lives and their fat children. Let them blather all they want. What we must do is keep them uninformed. If they become informed then they will want change. Change threatens our benvolent rule. Blame the tool not the fool.

If they become conscerned over the loss of these tools, tell them go along now. Get on the train. There is work and food for you at the end of the line.
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Re: ISP's To Implement Federal Website Blacklist Mechanism

Unread postby paimei01 » Wed 11 Jun 2008, 07:42:23

What do they mean by "blocking sites with child sex" ? I mean do they know the address of such sites, and put it into their program to block it ?
Why don't they just call the cops, "look we found this website, owned by...." ?

Soon we will need a permit to access the internet. No more communication, no more planning and watching what is going on in the world, we will only watch what we are shown

But let us look at the good side : more free time for other stuff.
Like spying on the neighbor to see if he says something against the government, or if he spreads fear by telling people about peak oil :)
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