[lawnchair]

Doom, to me?

Environmental collapse causing severe shortages, leading to tribal scapegoating (in urban humanity, you don't meet and become friendly with millions of people... you build tribes) equals, at best, Mogadishu with more iPods and less water.

[rdberg1957]

If you foresee doom, what does it matter where you live? Will peak oil have less impact in Kansas? Global Warming have less impact on small towns? Will drought be worse in LA or Podunk? There are only a few things we can predict with high probability, much less certainty.

If you foresee doom, then much of what you choose is based on your values. Are you willing to scramble and claw in order to survive? What are you unwilling to do in order to survive?

[killJOY]

It sure goes against the grain of mainstream peak oil thought to settle in L. A.

Most folks here think it will soon be a maelstrom.

I certainly wouldn't think of moving there.


But then again: L. A. might be where all the food drops happen.

[topcat]

I hope you mean

Lower
Alabama

[Tyler_JC]

Other than living the Bohemian Dream of having fun in Santa Monica for a few years, what do you plan to accomplish by living in LA?

Will you earn more money than you would have earned in another place?

Will you be able to save up your extra income or will it be lost to the very high cost of living that goes along with living in LA?

Will you have a good, steady job in LA or are you just going to wing it?

Do you currently have any family or friends in LA that will help you out if you lose your job/apartment?

You need to start asking yourself these questions.

And for those of you who believe that LA will become a Mad Max Post-Apocolyptic Death Town in 5 years, get a clue. Collapses do not happen overnight. If you read most of the responsible analysis of the situation, we do have time to prepare. There's no reason why LA won't survive the next 5-10 years mostly intact.

Now when you start talking about the intermediate term, 10-20 years, LA runs into some serious problems.

In the long to very long term, 20-50 years, LA becomes a ghost town.

But the transition from metropolis to Ghost Town is unlikely to happen overnight. The world simply does not work that way.

Crime and poverty will increase in LA from now untill the city begins seriously emptying out (~2020), but that doesn't mean that moving to that city is automatically a bad idea. Detroit has been emptying out for decades, crime is up dramatically, but there are still people surviving and thriving in that hell hole. It's all about your individual abilities.

You have to look closely at your own situation and see what works for you.

By the way, don't listen to the people on this board. None of us know what we are talking about.

[Zardoz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tyler_JC', '.')..By the way, don't listen to the people on this board. None of us know what we are talking about.

[tsakach]

Since you decided to share your thoughts about moving to LA on this forum, it is a sign that you are having doubts that it might not be a good decision.

What research have you done on other locations? Why is LA your best choice, and how does it compare with somewhere like Portland, Oregon?

[I_Like_Plants]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lawnchair', 'L')oo F. Lirpa?

If not, what the hell are you expecting to "learn" from people in LA? How to manage a Costco? How to shoot a porno? How to mix overpriced drinks? How to educate 20,000 students to pass a test, yet still be illiterate? How to make smiley faces jump around a webpage? How about how to garden, how to can food, how to mend fences, how to generate electricity?

Those of us in the small towns will say, "F* you, keep on walking".

No, you have not "lived all over". Have you tried a town of 2 to 5 thousand at least 25 miles from a WalMart? Lots of them out there, though it may be hard to find a job requiring whatever useless college education you got. We have the high-speed internet, cable TV, and UPS. Commute time, six minutes on foot, walking by the grocery on the way.

Aww... so you want to only make friendships with pretty people just your age and ever-so-cool in whatever your subculture is. Bully for you.

[Narz]

Hey all.

After thinking about things I think I'm going to go to Utah this summer. I should be able to find work there and if I room with my GF our rent will only be $150 a month.

Thanks for the comments.

Cheers,
Narz

[NEOPO]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tyler_JC', '
')By the way, don't listen to the people on this board. None of us know what we are talking about.

[threadbear]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lawnchair', 'D')oom, to me?

Environmental collapse causing severe shortages, leading to tribal scapegoating (in urban humanity, you don't meet and become friendly with millions of people... you build tribes) equals, at best, Mogadishu with more iPods and less water.

[Zardoz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', 'I')ts a joke, I am joking but LA? you are out of your mind if you move there.

[NEOPO]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', 'I')ts a joke, I am joking but LA? you are out of your mind if you move there.

[Newsseeker]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Baldwin', 'L')A? Fine, it is your death sentence. Just make sure your next of kin are not in a major city.

[lawnchair]

Best of luck, Narz, in whatever direction you go.

But, for those who suggest very slow decline, take this article and realize that a small handful of agitants could turn the city into a ghost town.

Los Angeles suffers longest dry spell in 130 years.

[Zardoz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lawnchair', '[')url=http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=070401224357.3dsap835&show_article=1]Los Angeles suffers longest dry spell in 130 years.[/url]

[pup55]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'L')A

[Zardoz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pup55', '.')..In fact, they are not 100% ready to welcome outsiders. However, they will probably let you coexist without too much problem if you are not a whiner...

[lotrfan55345]

Atleast it's better than the OC or inland empire.

[ziggy]

Narz, I was born and raised in West LA - spent 18 years there and you could add on another five years if adding up all the "vacation to visit family" time I've spent there. I know West LA and Santa Monica well. While it's possible to get around in a few small areas by walking, I can tell you that you've got a false conception of the walkability of Santa Monica. You can get around and do a lot of things within a one mile radius in some areas, but frankly, I think your operating assumption on at least this point isn't correct. Even Santa Monica is a car town.