[NEOPO]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('WildRose', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', 'C')all me crazy but I still have hope for a non draconian transition.
I think if people who are "aware" would quit pretending that everything is hopeless and actually DO SOMETHING that we might just get by this without having to jam RFID chips up everyones asses

[sameu]

end of humankind or not
in any event
it will be more interesting then the boring consumerstyle 9-5 work jadajada keeping up appearences lifestyle most of the people have now

[WildRose]

NEOPO, thanks for responding at length! I did glean a lot of what I think is valuable information from your observations in your travels. I can certainly see where you're coming from and I do agree with your insights about the large urban centers, especially where no thought is being given to a powered down existence. Some of the cities in locations where there is adequate water, arable land, people with open minds and less urban sprawl will fare better with less energy.

I'm in Alberta, as you may know, in a city made up of people with all levels of income, from the very poor to the very wealthy, lots of people currently making a good living but also with huge debt. I really do shudder to think what will happen if the worst of our fears is realized and we really are about to face rapidly declining energy, not only depleting oil and natural gas but also higher priced electricity. I can only guess at the fallout from all of this in this city where as a whole, we have such a huge sense of entitlement.

Our preparations are centered on working to pay off debt, doing what needs to be done to our home while it's still possible, and looking at areas that may be more sustainable should we decide to leave. We're starting a garden here this spring (we did have a large garden at our first home and were successful with it), but this time we'll be learning from scratch how to build healthy soil. We just want to be sure that we have some skill at doing this. Fortunately, my husband has a lot of marketable skills (mechanics of every description), which he is starting to teach to our kids. My line of work may not be around for long, kind of depends on what happens with technology, although I have a pretty good medical background and am quite trainable that way.

I'm looking into relocalization efforts by groups in Alberta through the Post Carbon Institute. As far as I can see, they are about the most positive thinkers for sustainability that I've come across around here.

There's a lot to think about. It occupies quite a bit of my time these days, but I think it's important to learn as much as one can. I don't think I've ever done so much reading in my life, not even during my time in college!

Thanks again for your reply.

[I_Like_Plants]

"We must try to wreck gracefully" NEOPO I'd put that in a signature file to go on the end of each of my posts if I knew how.