[Kylon]

The idea of the "The Order of Knowledge" would be to preserve all of the great information of the current age, and the plants, and beneficial organisms, for future generations.

It would be to preserve all of the technology, all of the accomplishments that mankind has made, so that as we are sent hurtling through a new dark ages, a new dawn may yet once again appear.

The second goal of "The Order of Knowledge" would be to try and figure out ways of reviving civilization, and reviving the world from darkness.

It would also need some "Knowledge Warriors", who would make it their life's goal to both pass down the knowledge, and to defend the knowledge from destruction by the hoards.

What do you think about this idea?

[chukar]

It seems that all of this knowledge has just contributed to the problem of overshoot and unsustainability. The more we find out about medicine, hygiene and agriculture, the longer people live and the more resources they consume.

[Narz]

Well how about we maintain the knowledge but kill everyone on their fortieth birthday then?

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('chukar', 'I')t seems that all of this knowledge has just contributed to the problem of overshoot and unsustainability. The more we find out about medicine, hygiene and agriculture, the longer people live and the more resources they consume.

[gg3]

Chukar, I'll believe you're serious about that when you stop wiping your arse and don't go to the doctor.

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Kylon, what you're describing is similar to Azimov's Foundation. I'd suggest reading the original trilogy to develop your ideas further.

My group here is operating on that premise: preserve useful knowledge, "teach what you know and learn what you don't." We have permaculturists, hunter-gatherers, and eco-industrials. We have a seed saving committee that is engaged with preserving seed stock for useful plants. Etc... And we expect to have land by the end of this year.

The evolution of societies is based on two things: increase in stored knowledge over time, and decrease in violence over time. Both of these conditions are necessary. To increase and preserve knowledge entails institutions such as schools, libraries, and research institutes, both public and private. To reduce violence entails institutions such as an effective justice system, and a defense system that is capable of deterring foreign aggression.

[MacG]

There seem to have been stuff like that going on previously. Some traces of a couple of early spin-offs of semi-Christian sects with kabbalistic streaks. This is the stuff urban legends are born from (which Dan Brown hijack for novels) and there are tons of it on the net. Difficult to trust anything of it, but anyhow:

http://altreligion.about.com/library/we ... 30103a.htm
http://www.templarhistory.com/name.html

A Google for
Ebionites give some hundred thousand hits.

[dbruning]

Hey Raphael,

Most of what you write I don't quite follow...whether that is a bad thing or not time will tell

Ip's have 4 sets of numbers though, not 5. Unless your talking IPv6...which I think has 6.

And as an aside, I'll know more about unlucky number 13 after July 13th of this year. It happens to be my 10 year anniversary with my fiance.....and the day we've chosen for our wedding After 10 years we know each other pretty well...time to make it official!

[TheDude]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Shannymara', 'W')e just watched Logan's Run last night. Ironic.

[TWilliam]

Jeez Raph, get with it. All this magico-mythic stuff is so pre-rational. Stop confusing it with post-rational Transcendence...