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PO is coming... Want to give up?

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Unread postby Falconoffury » Sun 19 Dec 2004, 15:17:35

I'm trying to learn more about low energy life so that I can make the transition. You shouldn't think that you won't make it through the crash. We will probably still have air to breathe. Depending on your location, you'll probably have enough water to live. Then you just have to worry about food. It would be useful to learn how to start a fire, and also learn how to farm, and what wild plants are edible.
"If humans don't control their numbers, nature will." -Pimentel
"There is not enough trash to go around for everyone," said Banrel, one of the participants in the cattle massacre.
"Bush, Bush, listen well: Two shoes on your head," the protesters chant
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Unread postby mindfarkk » Sun 19 Dec 2004, 22:56:04

give up? now? no way! there are way too many unknowns, for one thing. i feel incredibly lucky i *can* prepare in any way for this challenge. what a gift!!! if the WMD fall on my head or if i end up some political prisoner - maybe then i will crack the cyanide capsule in my head. otherwise - screw it - i was always wild at heart. i only regret it took this whole revelation to set me loose the way i should have done years and years ago.
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Re: Good post

Unread postby seb » Sun 19 Dec 2004, 23:42:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('julianj', 'A')s an individual your use of fossil fuel is so small that you can hardly accelerate or retard it.


In Japan there is a slogan (made for the Kyoto protocol? somebody can confirm it?) we see very often :
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')hink globally, act locally

This is not stupid since people who have a global influence (as GW Bush) are very few. Of course, if the amount of people aware of the situation is, as I suspect, less than 5% then even if they act locally there is no big global results. :cry: Anyway, I am part of these and I do my best to save energy everyday. I do not feel it is a so big burden. :)
Not mother tongue. Sorry for the mistakes.
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Unread postby Falconoffury » Mon 20 Dec 2004, 03:26:21

Many people on these boards who learn about PO admit that they plan to do nothing in their lives in response to that information. Well, there are simple things you could do that wouldn't disrupt your life. Learn about survival in the woods! You have the internet at your fingertips still. You can read about what bugs and plants are safe to eat. You can learn how to build homes with simple materials like wood and adobe. You could learn low energy farming techniques. That information may be critical one day, and it doesn't involve investing your money or changing your immediate lifestyle. All it takes is some time reading some websites. Since your reading this post, I know you have that time.
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Unread postby 0mar » Mon 20 Dec 2004, 03:50:18

I am lucky that I learned enough of peak oil for it to influence my career. I am currently obtaining a PhD in biological engineering specializing in biofuel/bioreactors.

I am not foolhardy to think that I will be able to solve peak oil, or even delay it. The scalability is not there. However, I have plans for local government and a shift towards a sustainable society. For 25-30,000 people bioreactors and fuels are actually fairly useful. The "waste" from agriculture and maybe a dedicated plot is about enough to fuel a well designed reactor for 3-4 months, assuming that the drawoff isn't huge. Combined with other forms of energy, a community can be well off if the proper steps can be maintained.

I have a contigency plan for if the SHTF. I am armed with a few guns (thanks to the gun thread), including a man-killer. I have a rudimentary knowledge of crops, which I think I will get better at by practice, assuming that I don't starve to death or get shot tending my fields. I'm trying to find a girl that's survivalist minded like me :) (I think bars aren't the place to do that). Hopefully, there won't be a global meltdown of society (although it looks likely). I'm not afraid to take another life if it comes down to it, but I'd rather not.

I have also made arrangements to leave this country as soon as I have my doctorate and set up shop somewhere more sensible. Maybe somewhere in France or Germany... I haven't got an idea yet. I still have a few more years to get acquantated (GOD SPELLING IS HARD) with procedures and to make the best decision for me. Money is not a problem, I never really valued it. Sure I have some debt, but I'll take care of it ASAP (I hope). Been stocking my money in Euros for a year or so.

I am by no means ready for a worst case scenario of nuclear warfare, but I doubt anyone else can be. My next goal I've laid out for myself is a 6 month supply of food and a stockpile of ammo, just incase ya know :). You'd be surprised how much you eat :(
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Unread postby entropyfails » Mon 20 Dec 2004, 04:11:32

I don't typically quote toss, but I think I can sum up this thread with a quick quote.

"We must become the change we want to see." - Mahatma Gandhi

If you go out and spend like crazy, those around you will either unconsciously or consciously see that as your “solutionâ€
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Unread postby mindfarkk » Mon 20 Dec 2004, 10:34:11

BINGO, we have a winner! ding ding ding ding
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Unread postby Permanently_Baffled » Mon 20 Dec 2004, 11:16:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')I have a contigency plan for if the SHTF. I am armed with a few guns (thanks to the gun thread), including a man-killer.

I have also made arrangements to leave this country as soon as I have my doctorate and set up shop somewhere more sensible. Maybe somewhere in France or Germany... I haven't got an idea yet.
I am by no means ready for a worst case scenario of nuclear warfare, but I doubt anyone else can be. My next goal I've laid out for myself is a 6 month supply of food and a stockpile of ammo, just incase ya know :)


LOL :lol: OMAR don't get yourself shot sneaking those guns and ammo into Europe !!

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