THE Beer Thread (merged)

by **guest** » Thu 17 Jun 2004, 16:57:18

FUNNY! I was thinking the same thing. You had the guts to post on it. The problem with "homebrewing" is that these kits will not make you self sufficient. You will need their malt packages and other ingreediants to keep brewing, UNLESS you can mash and wort the grain (getting good barley is another issue :cry:

) yourself in the bathtub with some way to vary the temps. Forget it.

What you need are easier beer substitutes :Mead, and Wine. Honey can be made on your farm (as could barley of course), and all you need to do is add some yeast, water and honey together (ok its a bit more complicated than that but not much more) and walah a good alchoholic drink! Wine is only a little more complicated, and Viniculture may be an option for you depending on location, but BEES are all over! Get some wine/mead yeasts, a caboy, airlocks bottles corkes etc (or a capper if you wanna go cheap).

I used to drink 1/2 litter of Sapporo Reserve (all barley) everybreakfast before University (cum lade) , I currently am into Belgians (Leff, Aflichem), love Red Hook ESB, English Pale Ales, BASS, Becks Dark, Dark Staropramen etc. etc. etc. and I know living with interuptions in the beer supply will stink

But take it from a Hop-Head, BEER is HARD to mke 100% from scratch. :cry:

by **Pops** » Thu 17 Jun 2004, 16:58:53

Pops will be running a still!*

Beer has a poor AROEI (Alcohol Return On Energy Input)

*Of course for motor fuel use only.

by **Chicagoan** » Thu 17 Jun 2004, 17:11:41

If you know how to make alcoholic drinks from scratch, start a brewery. I guarantee you will be able to make money. Alcohol is the one commodity that people consume more of when times are bad.

by **Guest** » Thu 17 Jun 2004, 17:27:44

If you had the money to start a brewery with vertical intigration (all your supplies provided by your own recources preferably nearby) then a regional micro-brewery would be a big hit.

beer needs a lot of eqpt. and ingreediants, like good hops, good barley, good water, good yeast, mashers, etc. etc.

People around here make good money with homemade Organic wine. but htis is wine country so adapt to your location by chioce of brew.

Beer has B vitamins, and is basicly "liquid bread", and is very nutritious esp. those with yeast in the bottle (bottle conditioned like champaine), Hard Liqour is not as good for ya, tasty, filling, or social, and it can rob the body of those B vitamins...

Do simple searches on YAHOO on Mead, Wine, or beer, "tutorial" or how to make____ (fill in the blank).

I'm too lazy to search for you and provide you with links to stuff I already saved on disk years ago....but thats how I got my information.

So you have to do some work on your own kiddo. :wink:

Hey you want a challange? Try making real Japanese SAKI, it's doubly fermented! learn how to make "koji" and get high. :lol:

by **Guest** » Fri 18 Jun 2004, 11:39:25

beer could be tricky but making cider and wine is easy
just mash it up in and leave it to ferment!

ps growing 'hemp' is even easier

Martin

by **Guest** » Fri 18 Jun 2004, 12:42:13

http://www.jackherer.com/

by **Guest** » Mon 05 Jul 2004, 20:32:45

There's alot of room for improvizations and shortcuts in brewing especially because people wouldn't be too critical in a shortage situation.

I've made beer by malting feed grade barley - and it was actually pretty good! Hops - you can grow your own. Here's something for inspiration as to primative beer making www.beerhunter.com/documents/19133-000103.html.

by **nigel** » Sun 18 Jul 2004, 02:53:01

America - WOW!

BBC
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Girlfriend 'hit with alligator'
Even a small alligator could pack quite a punch. A man in the US state of Florida was arrested after he allegedly used his pet alligator to hit his girlfriend. David Havenner, 41, faces misdemeanour charges of battery and possession of an alligator, said the authorities.

Girlfriend Nancy Monico claimed he beat her with his fists and then grabbed the alligator and swung it at her as she tried to escape, said officials. The three-foot (one metre) alligator, which had been kept in a bathtub, was handed to Florida wildlife officials.

"He threw [the alligator] at me," 39-year-old Ms Monico said on ABC News. "I don't think he knew what he was doing. He was just throwing it at me." She also alleged Mr Havenner threw beer bottles at her at their home in Port Orange, central Florida, said the sheriff's spokesman Gary Davidson.

Mr Havenner's version of the story differed. According to the Associated Press, he told investigators Ms Monico bit his hand because she was upset they had run out of alcohol.

by **Aaron** » Sun 18 Jul 2004, 08:04:26

Brits WOW

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'D')isappointment, alcohol and warm weather sent hundreds of soccer fans rampaging through a number of English cities on Monday after their side's last-gasp loss to France in a Euro 2004 opener, police said.

by **Cool Hand Linc** » Sun 18 Jul 2004, 15:06:07

The guy who beat his wife really had a problem. Needs a little professional help for sure.

The fans who rioted. Maybe they all need help? Not selling brew at the soccer games could help.

by **Cool Hand Linc** » Mon 19 Jul 2004, 13:00:37

Are you a Brit?

by **OilBurner** » Mon 19 Jul 2004, 13:13:11

So if us Brits turn to rioting and the Yanks start throwing Aligators at each other, I think I'm taking a course in Zoology and moving to the States!! :lol:

:D

by **nigel** » Mon 19 Jul 2004, 14:51:47

Missinglink - yes, a Limey all the way through to the pips.

by **Guest** » Mon 13 Dec 2004, 18:15:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Chicagoan', 'I')f you know how to make alcoholic drinks from scratch, start a brewery. I guarantee you will be able to make money. Alcohol is the one commodity that people consume more of when times are bad.

by **PenultimateManStanding** » Mon 13 Dec 2004, 18:49:07

they'll stone you when your riding in your car
they'll stone you when your playing your guitar
but i would not feel so all alone
everybody must get stoned

by **Ayoob_Reloaded** » Mon 13 Dec 2004, 20:46:55

Making beer isn't tough when you use a kit. The toughest part is keeping everything sanitized and clean. Wine is a lot easier, and making moonshine in a still is pretty damn easy. You can use anything to make moonshine. Potatoes, carrots, rice, grain, bread... just about anything will work and it all pretty much tastes the same.

It all comes out 190 proof. Then, you can do all kinds of stuff with it. Simmer juniper berries in it, and you got gin. Making bourbon is friggin tough to do from scratch, but it's doable. Gin's much easier and a better bet.

It's a good thing I like gin.

Vodka is a piece of cake.

Apple wine or hard cider, cherry wine, just about any kind of fruit will work for making wine. Even grapes!!!

I thought about brewing beer postpeak, but I think the hard stuff is more likely to work and have more predictable results. One problem with the hard stuff is storing/aging. It's pretty flammable, you know. The Jim Beam distillery caught fire recently and it was pretty ugly.

I've had everclear before... it's unpredictable stuff. Your lips go numb before you even realize you're under the influence. I remember waking up one morning in a pile of dirty laundry with a wet sock tied around my ankle and my back hurt like hell, and I couldn't remember anything about how I got that way. Turns out I attacked a wrestler and he threw my ass down the stairs.

Still don't have a clue about the sock, though. Everclear.

by **PenultimateManStanding** » Mon 13 Dec 2004, 21:33:48

They'll stone when you're tryin' to make a buck
They'll stone you and then they'll say Good Luck
They'll stone you when you're tryin' to be so brave
They'll stone you when you're sent down in your grave
But I would not feel so all alone
Everybody must get stoned

Sounds like a plan, Ayoob, sounds like a plan Everclear is BAD NEWS

by **Teclo** » Fri 25 Feb 2005, 18:27:23

so long as the beer kepts flowing we will be ok a healthly intake of alcohol reduces productivity provided I can get drunk the world can do what it wants

by **Ayoob_Reloaded** » Fri 25 Feb 2005, 18:36:29

For a second there I thought you were going to say we were going to run out of beer. Scared me.