[Aaron]

Sounds like we are violently agreeing then...

[retiredguy]

T'would seem so.

[thuja]

Lovely...Kisses to all

[Aaron]

Nuthin wrong with a little scraping among InterTube Friends I always say.

I'd be disappointed if it were any other way.

[SeasonOfPain]

Getting back to the original thread topic, I would first of all like to express my embarrassment for the pile of excrement that is the Wisconsin State Journal. It is a highly conservative, reactionary, and small-minded rag, especially the editorial pages.

That said, they've actually published two somewhat intelligent responses to the editorial in two of last week's print editions (sorry Aaron, I didn't see yours, unless I wasn't reading closely enough). We've had a bunch of speakers come through town lately on the topic of energy and climate change, so perhaps the zeitgeist is tuning in a bit more. So if the editorials and responses got even one person to put down their Whopper and think about things, then it's ultimately a Good Thing.

As for conservation vs. impact, I think we're all just killing time until something takes us out. It might be starvation, it might be violence, it might be falling while repairing your roof or good old disease. At the end of the day you do what you have to do to live with yourself. I try to live a modest life, and while doing so may enable others to add to the general problem, that is not my fault. Nobody is forcing anyone to consume. They've made their choices, I made mine. I can live with mine. I believe the general problem is unfixable anyway, so feeling guilty about it is rather pointless.

[retiredguy]

Hi Season,

Nice to hear from another homeboy. The Urinal is indeed an embarassment of a newspaper.

Wish there was something we could do, but I've come to the same conclusion as you have.