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Re: Gregorian Calendar

Unread postby AWPrime » Mon 29 Jan 2007, 12:22:09

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H') = Heh means water and earth in the name of YHWH.


And as usual, this has nothing to do with the topic.
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Re: Gregorian Calendar

Unread postby AWPrime » Tue 30 Jan 2007, 12:18:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Raphael', 'A')nd let us not poo-poo the profound importance of how 13 plays a role eventually in the formulation of Einstein's SpaceTime.
Are you lying or are you going to give us a source?


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')nd before SpaceTime, Newton had an apple hit him on the head.The man who gave us gravity was also an alchemist.
He actually spent more time studying the ancient art of hermetics than he did studying gravity...

And yet he decided that it wasn't good usefull to be published.


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'i')t is claimed Newton's insights to gravity came from studying the Emerald Tablet.

And nothing but a claim,


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hich culture produced the first and best Timekeepers?
The Maya.

We, because we have atomic clocks.


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'a')s I descend into the abyss of the primitive mind...where we find the shadows that the Judaeo/Christian hides from...

You might have a have an unhealthy JC obsession.


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he Maya had 2 calendars that they merged...again an indication of left / right brain merging.
Big claim but no evidence to support it.


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he invisible 13th floor is the invisible 13th level of heaven the Judaeo / Christians have erected called 'Have Faith'.
Big claim but no evidence to support it.


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'F')rom the external macrocosm to the internal microcosm the same patterns are found again and again and again...is this pattern extending and infinite in both directions or is it more like DNA, looped around onto itself into a torus, emitting a toroidal field...a very primitive stepping stone of creation...Big claim but no evidence to support it.


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he Tarot actually shows that we are following the sequential archetypes as laid out by the first 13 Cards of the Tarot as we move forward toward Dec. 21, 2012.
Beginning from the year 2000, 2012 is in fact the 13th year!
This will be a laugh.


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he Tzolkin Day of birth determined the individuals fate and destiny, not unlike modern 'astrology'.
That isn't a compliment.


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')o how is it possible to show that the archetypes on both sides of the Atlantic Ocean were in place BEFORE contact was made?
Is it possible that people on both sides of the ocean could count to 13? Why yes!


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hen it has already been proven by scholars that the Tarot is connected to the Kabbalah which is in fact connected to 'mystical Judaism'.Big claim but no evidence to support it.
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Re: Gregorian Calendar

Unread postby AWPrime » Wed 31 Jan 2007, 08:30:24

Are you still claiming that the tarot is older, then it really is?
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Re: Gregorian Calendar

Unread postby AWPrime » Wed 31 Jan 2007, 12:29:49

14th century.
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Re: Gregorian Calendar

Unread postby AWPrime » Thu 01 Feb 2007, 06:38:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Raphael', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AWPrime', '1')4th century.

That's about a 100 year spread.
Plus or minus 50 years ... give me a year ... an event ... who was the author of the Tarot?

It was a gradual developement from normal playing cards, so there are no distinct 'authors'.


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hy then do the same archetypes appear on the Mesoamerican Codices, which were written on deerskin long before the crucifix waving JC showed up trading religion for resources?

You assume that the archetypes are constant in tarot, they aren't, in early tarot games they also included; old gods, birds and heroes.
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Re: Gregorian Calendar

Unread postby AWPrime » Thu 01 Feb 2007, 10:39:12

Now in english please.
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Re: Gregorian Calendar

Unread postby greenworm » Wed 07 Feb 2007, 23:09:38

SPACE. Hell yeah.

http://witcombe.sbc.edu/earthmysteries/ ... engeD.html

The sun(s) :lol: and the moons are just scratching the surface.

"3 it's the magic number." O.K. I have repeated this mantra long enough and not once has somebody told me the origin of this little diddy. I'll be honest. This is irritating me. Is this from schoolhouse rock or something? Can a brother help me out?

Oh yeah 3.
3X1220=?

2012?

2012-(3X1220)= -1648

Plenty of monkeys around at the time who had nothing better to do than solve the great galaxial puzzle.

According to SAtAN that particular alignment would most likely be in the neighborhood of Jan 7 of our most beloved 2012-13.

Mayans like Dec 21 2012, from what I gather their precision was a bit more tidy. Either way, between the two of them that is a 16 day span.

Have we been NEOconned?

Slaughter stone, now that is an understatement.
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Re: Gregorian Calendar

Unread postby AWPrime » Sat 10 Feb 2007, 09:33:49

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Raphael', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AWPrime', 'N')ow in english please.

I really don't think any language can penetrate that woolly nutton/mutton mind of yours.
You might want to try and inject some logic in your arguments. Most of your 'arguments' are also completely detached from the topic.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he most important is how perhaps the Mayan method of telling time is connected to the Tarot.
The mayans seem to have a lack of tarot cards. :lol:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')pposite sides of the ocean around the same time, using different ‘sciences’ to achieve the same result or come to the same conclusions…
I see two lies here, first they aren't the same and the mayan calendar is far older.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')ould ewe like to read my thread written some ago where I suggest the Solar loving Fire Cults wrested control from the Goddess worshiping Moon, Water and Fertility Cults?
You so easily disregard the believers of Moon gods or Sun Goddesses.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') have offered nothing but insight while you have done nothing but bleat about maintaining some kind of rhetorical scientific status quo of superior intellect.
You might want to stop lying, you twist reality to suit your demented ego. In other words your insight is nothing more then incompetence covered up by lies.
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Re: Gregorian Calendar

Unread postby skiwi » Sat 10 Feb 2007, 10:24:00

An extract from the transcript of Ian Xel Lungold's speech on the Mayan Calendar a couple of years ago .. Rest his soul Mayan Calendar Comes North
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '.').The absolute dead center to our civilization is called the Gregorian
calendar. Gregorian calendar – was actually put into place about 1582 by
a guy named Pope Gregory. 1582 was called “Year of Our Lord.” Remember
those old time movies, with pirates and the crier comes through town and
he’s crying out this year that year, year of our lord. This Gregorian
calendar was the establishment by the Catholic Church of what day it was.
And what the Gregorian calendar is about is this: Our Sun. And around our
sun is us - the Earth. We go around the sun, like that. And we go around
the sun every 3651?4 days. I’ll put some continents on here; this is the
planet Earth. We go around the sun every 3651?4 days. So, our whole
concept of time, and the very center of our consciousness is about these
cycles, repetitive cycles of action. In fact if you look up time in the
dictionary, time equals motion. Motion of physical things. Okay. Now the
Gregorian calendar, did you study a lot in history or did you go to sleep
in history? I went to sleep in history. Since, I have gained a bigger
appreciation. If you’ve studied history, you know that the Gregorian
calendar did not go down very easily with indigenous people. The Gregorian
calendar went out with the Spanish and with the Catholic bishops. They
conquered lands and then told people what day it was. Most civilizations
already had their own calendar, and then these guys come along and say no.
This is the day. It didn’t go down very easy; they had to kill millions
and millions of people to get them to follow this Gregorian Calendar. And
what this Gregorian calendar was all about was the physical measurement of
our orbit and it turns out that this is a very very insidious tool. You
probably never thought that a calendar could be so evil. But what this
calendar has done is it has pinned our civilization’s consciousness to
physical evidence only. The absolute dead center of our civilization is
focused on only physical evidence. The measurement of physical objects
moving through space. That’s why it’s not year of our lord anymore;
because there has been a steady erosion of our consciousness of things
other than physical. Remember we use to have religious holidays like
Christmas and Easter. Have you noticed that a really good Christmas now
is a whole lot of stuff sold to a whole lot of people? Same with Easter.
It’s a buying marketing frenzy, isn’t it? Especially in the cities. There
has been a steady erosion of our consciousness of things other than the
physical because our calendar has directed our consciousness only in that
direction. That is insidious. [It’s not just the Gregorian calendar,
because other solar calendars or lunar calendars are used in other
cultures and is based on cycles of the moon; it’s still just as physical,
isn’t it?] Yes, it is. [An Islamic calendar or Jewish calendars, are they
just as bad, then?]. They are but not as concentrated. [Why is the Solar
Calendar worse?] This particular calendar is worse because now this
calendar has been adopted as the commerce calendar. It’s the calendar on
which all things are bought and sold. Every computer is programmed with
this calendar. To a certain degree all those other calendars were
physical calendars, but they have all gone into less and less use, haven’t
they. Because they had some spiritual aspects to them, and because they
did they were shunned, they were thrown away. It was all narrowed down to
this is the calendar, and this is the day. Do you know what the word dogma
means? Anybody out there know what the word means? It doesn’t sound like
a very good word does it? The word means “unquestioned belief.” Dogma.
It doesn’t sound very healthy. Do you know what the biggest dogma is on
Earth? What day it is. Nobody even questions it. And if they should, that
person’s crazy. Yeah, this is a really powerful tool to dominate people’s
consciousness, which is senior to their body. And it is senior to their
actions. You see there is cascade of events that goes like this:
Consciousness, then light, then thought, then action. Consciousness
first, then light, then thought, then the event. In every case in all
ways. So if you control somebody’s consciousness, you’ve got them. Soul,
mind and body, you’ve got them. So here we are, all of us from birth,
including our parents and grandparents, from birth all of us have been
brainwashed with this focus. Every one of us, me too. Every one of us has
been brainwashed. Welcome to the rinse cycle. First of all, you’ve
probably heard about other calendars, like we were talking about the
Hebrew calendar, the Islamic calendar. All indigenous calendars, the most
ancient indigenous calendars had something in common. All of them were
360 days, 360 days long. Well the archeologists they understand that is a
vague solar year; that’s what they called it. And they had the opinion
that these ancient people were so primitive that they couldn’t figure out
how long the year was. So they just approximated it into 360 days. Well
the Maya had a 360-day calendar, we are going to be talking a whole lot
about it. They also knew exactly how long it took for the Earth to go
around the sun. They had a calendar like this – the HAAB calendar, which
was a 3651?4-day calendar. All these ancient civilizations had 360-day
calendars. Maybe they were looking at something other than this motion of
Earth around the Sun. Maybe they were paying attention to something other
than physical evidence. It’s possible; we’ll take a look...


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '.').
The Mayan Calendar was
never about time. It was always about measuring and keeping track of the
flow of creation, and the intent of creation and the aspect of creation
every single day. Remember there is one law in the universe: what you pay
attention to you become conscious of. So what if every day you were
paying attention to the energy of this flow of creation? What would you
become conscious of? So, would it be easier to have your consciousness
attuned to your intuition? Easier isn’t all that good a word; it’s
automatic – without any effort, without any thinking about it at all; I
mean no meditating, I mean, just forget it. You look in the morning to see
what the intent of creation is for that day, then you go and live your
life. The Maya woke up every morning and celebrated the day for the
purpose it served on creation and then went and lived their lives. Every
day. You know what the word entrainment is? Entrainment is the automatic
syncopation of life forms, or even mechanical objects. Science doesn’t
have a good idea why it happens but they sure know it happens. One example
is a baby and a mother when they’re nursing; her and baby’s hearts go into
rhythm, they beat at the same time. That’s called entrainment. The natural
matching up. It works for objects too. If you take cuckoo clocks, at a
clock shop, for instance, and they are all ticking at different times;
within a week or so they will all be ticking and tocking at exactly the
same time. It’s called entrainment. What this is (Codex) is a tool to
entrain your consciousness to the flow of creation. 13 and 20, 13 and 20
and it goes 1 through 13 and it goes through these different aspects of
creationnumbers...


The Maya actually had three calendars

The HAAB which was 365 1/4 days long for commerce (paying taxes0

The Tzolkin which was their personal calendar of 260 days made up of
13 intentions and 20 aspects 13 times 20 equals 260

and the Tun which was their divine prophetic calendar of 360 days

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')s this calendar (Tun) turns in this direction (counter-
clockwise), it in turn revolves this calendar (Tzolkin in a clockwise
rotation). It goes in large cycles. This one (Tun) goes around and around,
and this one (Tzolkin) goes around in 360 day increments. Every 52
revolutions of this calendar (Tun) – these two teeth match back up. It was
a very special time in the Mayan civilization. To show you how seriously
they took all of this– every 52 Tun they would have a celebration – a big
celebration wherein the night before they would put out every fire and
every spark in their whole entire civilization. Every bit of fire was
extinguished. And was re-lit at the temples the next morning and then
distributed by the priests to the people. And, by runners to the
villages. And they spread fire throughout their whole civilization once
again. All debts were absolved – and they started all over. That’s a big
commitment, don’t you think. Can you imagine purposefully blacking out
all the electricity throughout our entire civilization? And, I mean all
the batteries, too, no embers. Completely turning off all the electricity,
because of an event on your calendar. Can you imagine that? Not our
civilization. We’re looking at something completely differently, aren’t
we?
Let us make him who shall nourish and sustain us. What shall we do to be invoked; to be remembered in the earth.
We have tried with our first creatures but we could not make them venerate us.
So let us try to make obedient respectful beings who shall
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Re: Gregorian Calendar

Unread postby AWPrime » Sun 11 Feb 2007, 09:56:24

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('skiwi', 'A')n extract from the transcript of Ian Xel Lungold's speech on the Mayan Calendar a couple of years ago .. Rest his soul Mayan Calendar Comes North$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'R')emember we use to have religious holidays like Christmas and Easter. Have you noticed that a really good Christmas now is a whole lot of stuff sold to a whole lot of people? Same with Easter.
What a moron, the commercialization of the holidays came with the modern industrial period, not the introduction of the Gregorian calendar.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')his particular calendar is worse because now this calendar has been adopted as the commerce calendar. It’s the calendar on
which all things are bought and sold.
He doesn't realize that there will always be a commerce calendar. So if the commerce factor is the evil part then there will always be an evil calendar.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')ebrew calendar, the Islamic calendar. All indigenous calendars, the most ancient indigenous calendars had something in common. All of them were 360 days, 360 days long.
I smell a lie.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he Mayan Calendar was never about time. It was always about measuring and keeping track of the flow of creation, and the intent of creation and the aspect of creation every single day.
What a reverse of logic. The calendar is still about time, however they belief that dates have meaning, just like any other civilization.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')an you imagine purposefully blacking out all the electricity throughout our entire civilization?Can he imagine the use of fireworks every full cycle?
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