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Re: Floating Cities

Unread postby AWPrime » Sat 27 Jan 2007, 05:39:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Madpaddy', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')the same thing is true about: cars, aircraft, normal cities, dams, dykes and whole lot of other things.

I think the level of risk is far higher in a floating city. I'll be heading for the mountains!!!
When properly designed, it should be far safer than a car or a dyke. It will have to be overengineered not to sink.

There are some design problems such as waste disposal and how to fit industry in such a way but these aren't physical impossibilities.
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Re: Floating Cities

Unread postby gwmss15 » Sat 27 Jan 2007, 09:45:20

not quite a floating city but the capital city of brunei has around 30 % of the capitals popluation living on platform cities. these are areas that are built above the sea around 5 meters above the mean sea level. that are boat and foot access only via narrow plank ways. This kind of living is becomeing more poplular in south east asia and where major cities are built on low lying river delta land.
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Re: Floating Cities

Unread postby Heineken » Sat 27 Jan 2007, 10:09:20

Brunei, an oil state, is one of the richest countries in the world on a per capita basis. Such high-density coastal strategies as you describe are irrelevant from a post-PO, post-Collapse perspective. Especially if the oceans die, which is an increasingly likely prospect.

Giant engineering projects, like floating cities, are not a rational response to looming energy, environmental, and economic collapse. They are an extension of the 20th-century mindset that got us into this fix.

The only rational response is to scale down, power down, depopulate, simplify, and live closer to nature while doing everything we can do to heal her grievous wounds. Of course, we are not rational.
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Re: Floating Cities

Unread postby AWPrime » Mon 29 Jan 2007, 12:11:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Heineken', 'T')he only rational response is to scale down, power down, depopulate, simplify, and live closer to nature while doing everything we can do to heal her grievous wounds. Of course, we are not rational.

Sadly when making plans one must take human nature into account.
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Re: Floating Cities

Unread postby Heineken » Tue 30 Jan 2007, 10:28:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AWPrime', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Heineken', 'T')he only rational response is to scale down, power down, depopulate, simplify, and live closer to nature while doing everything we can do to heal her grievous wounds. Of course, we are not rational.

Sadly when making plans one must take human nature into account.

Your floating-city scheme is an expression of human nature, and it will fail.
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Re: Floating Cities

Unread postby AWPrime » Tue 30 Jan 2007, 12:01:44

:roll: Depends how far one will go.

Also living closer to nature might not be a solution, it my be best to leave nature alone. In other words, remove the human population in sensitive areas (but that is a subject for a new thread).

You main argument seem to be that the investment seems to high, am I correct?
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