[AWPrime]

Some people go for metaphysics. It is because they can't or don’t want to understand science and really don't like its rules.

However with metaphysics they can do and conclude whatever they want. But as a result it’s worthless; they just have to realize that.

[PenultimateManStanding]

don't confuse Raphael's "metaphysics" with real metaphysical questions. What is good and evil? What is the difference between beauty and ugliness? What is justice? Is there such a thing as a "just war"? many questions can't be addressed by science but we still have to consider them. that's my take on it, anyway. If science can help, great, but metaphysical questions are simply all these questions that "come after" the physical ones which is the origin of the word.

[uNkNowN ElEmEnt]

If a stealth bomber crashes in the jungle will anyone hear it?

[PenultimateManStanding]

what came first, the chicken or the egg?

is mathematics "invented" or "discovered"?

[AWPrime]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'W')hat is good and evil? What is the difference between beauty and ugliness? What is justice?

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AWPrime', '
')I consider that the domain of regular philosofy, biology and social studies.

[dinopello]

I don't know what you would call the treatise "The Nature of Order" by Christopher Alexander. It could be said that it is a bridge between Philosophy and Physics.

Lots of reviews and info here if you are interested.

edit:Fixed the link!

[AWPrime]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AWPrime', '
')I consider that the domain of regular philosofy, biology and social studies.

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AWPrime', '
')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 't')o give up on metaphysical questions is to give in to nihilism

[AWPrime]

Beauty and ugliness can be soon from biology, while justice would be more psychological in nature.

I think that people calls these questions metaphysical, because they don't know how to apply it.

[oowolf]

Just as in Art, there is a Metaphysics for everyone. People absolutely without any artistic taste have that awful Kinkade crap:
http://www.thomaskinkade.com/magi/servl ... omeServlet
I tend to prefer the metaphysics of Kant, F. H. Bradley, Fichte (makes me an "absolute idealist", I guess).

Then there's the so-called "Metaphysical" poets, some of my faves:
http://www.luminarium.org/sevenlit/metaphysical.htm
There's nothing like lolling in the grass, eating ripe Mirabelle plums and reading a little Donne, or Marvell, while fleecy clouds float through Montana's Big Sky. Ah...Summer..

[oowolf]

I don't know how to make those links "smaller"; sorry.

[JustinFrankl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'd')on't confuse Raphael's "metaphysics" with real metaphysical questions. What is good and evil? What is the difference between beauty and ugliness? What is justice?

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JustinFrankl', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'd')on't confuse Raphael's "metaphysics" with real metaphysical questions. What is good and evil? What is the difference between beauty and ugliness? What is justice?

[Ludi]

Gee whiz, I like both Science and Metaphysics. I don't find them in conflict, actually.

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'G')ee whiz, I like both Science and Metaphysics. I don't find them in conflict, actually.

[AWPrime]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 't')his is fine, I don't have a problem with any of it. My point is that to think and explore these kinds of ideas is metaphysics

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AWPrime', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 't')his is fine, I don't have a problem with any of it. My point is that to think and explore these kinds of ideas is metaphysics

[AWPrime]

I found it vague, for not all of those questions are "after physical".

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AWPrime', 'I') found it vague, for not all of those questions are "after physical".