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Could Transhumanism save the American System?

Unread postby Kylon » Sat 20 Jan 2007, 20:27:24

I was wondering if a combination of neurogenic technologies to enhance the intelligence, executive functioning, and creativity of the American population en masse would be able to save the American system.

I mean, could we save our standard of living in comparison to the rest of the world if every one of our citizens had an IQ of 195, an iron will to be willing to work and capable of handling large amounts of stress, combined with creativity of great geniuses so that we could invent anything we needed?

If this was combined with the suggestions that I made in "5 Ways to Revitalize the United States" and "More solutions for America", then could we keep the America the dominant super power of the world?
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Re: Could Transhumanism save the American System?

Unread postby cynicalheretic » Sat 20 Jan 2007, 20:50:35

Then we would just have super smart citizens who could just figure out better ways to kill people. What we need is way to increase people morals while at the same removing God from the equation.
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Re: Could Transhumanism save the American System?

Unread postby lateralus » Sat 20 Jan 2007, 21:18:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cynicalheretic', ' ')What we need is way to increase people morals while at the same removing God from the equation.
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Re: Could Transhumanism save the American System?

Unread postby TITAN » Sun 21 Jan 2007, 05:09:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cynicalheretic', 'T')hen we would just have super smart citizens who could just figure out better ways to kill people. What we need is way to increase people morals while at the same removing God from the equation.



Trust me, if everyone's IQ was brought up to only 150; god would be out of the equation...


All this planet needs is a dieoff to at most 100 million people. Should be easy enough to orchestrate. Come on folks, let's make it happen. Are you with me?
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Re: Could Transhumanism save the American System?

Unread postby EndDays » Sun 21 Jan 2007, 15:40:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TITAN', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cynicalheretic', 'T')hen we would just have super smart citizens who could just figure out better ways to kill people. What we need is way to increase people morals while at the same removing God from the equation.


Trust me, if everyone's IQ was brought up to only 150; god would be out of the equation...

All this planet needs is a dieoff to at most 100 million people. Should be easy enough to orchestrate. Come on folks, let's make it happen. Are you with me?


Actually some of the greatest geniuses in history believed in God or were in fact followers of Jesus Christ.

To name a few - Nicholas Copernicus, Sir Fancis Bacon, Galileo Galilei, William Thomson Kelvin, Isaac Newton and so on.

Now let me get this straight, you're suggesting the need to exterminate 6B people so you can live? Don't you think that's pretty messed up?

"They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen." (Romans 1:25)

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Re: Could Transhumanism save the American System?

Unread postby cynicalheretic » Sun 21 Jan 2007, 15:44:05

Those people believed in god, because ideas contrary to that were not accessible to those people. You either believed in God or you were expendable.
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Re: Could Transhumanism save the American System?

Unread postby smiley » Sun 21 Jan 2007, 17:15:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')ctually some of the greatest geniuses in history believed in God or were in fact followers of Jesus Christ.

To name a few - Nicholas Copernicus, Sir Fancis Bacon, Galileo Galilei, William Thomson Kelvin, Isaac Newton and so on.


When Einstein was confronted with the quantum-physics and the uncertainty principle, he uttered the famous words:

"God does not throw dice"

At that point he realized that religion (i.e. to believe in a present and acting God) is incompatible with modern physics. Physics do not allow a creator to exist and act. If physics are true then God isn't and visa versa. There is no middle way.

With that I don't want to imply that smart men don't believe in God.

However it does seem that science has transgressed to a point where it excludes the presence of such an entity.
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Re: Could Transhumanism save the American System?

Unread postby threadbear » Sun 21 Jan 2007, 17:36:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Kylon', 'I') was wondering if a combination of neurogenic technologies to enhance the intelligence, executive functioning, and creativity of the American population en masse would be able to save the American system.

I mean, could we save our standard of living in comparison to the rest of the world if every one of our citizens had an IQ of 195, an iron will to be willing to work and capable of handling large amounts of stress, combined with creativity of great geniuses so that we could invent anything we needed?

If this was combined with the suggestions that I made in "5 Ways to Revitalize the United States" and "More solutions for America", then could we keep the America the dominant super power of the world?


Without correcting the weird core beliefs, character defects, and ego distortions, your prescription would end up more like a recipe for Nazi superman fascism. We don't need to invent everything we need, we need to disinvent a lot of the crap we've accumulated, and learn to live a more Spartan existence.
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Re: Could Transhumanism save the American System?

Unread postby cynicalheretic » Sun 21 Jan 2007, 18:47:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', '
')Without correcting the weird core beliefs, character defects, and ego distortions, your prescription would end up more like a recipe for Nazi superman fascism. We don't need to invent everything we need, we need to disinvent a lot of the crap we've accumulated, and learn to live a more Spartan existence.



So are you advocating getting rid of personal computers?
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Re: Could Transhumanism save the American System?

Unread postby MD » Sun 21 Jan 2007, 19:23:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smiley', '.').. If physics are true then God isn't and visa versa. There is no middle way...


Fundamentalist dogma at its best!
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Re: Could Transhumanism save the American System?

Unread postby AWPrime » Sun 21 Jan 2007, 19:43:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Kylon', 'I') was wondering if a combination of neurogenic technologies to enhance the intelligence, executive functioning, and creativity of the American population en masse would be able to save the American system.

Would they use their new intelligence?
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Re: Could Transhumanism save the American System?

Unread postby MD » Sun 21 Jan 2007, 19:55:29

This thread is stinking with flatulence.
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Re: Could Transhumanism save the American System?

Unread postby threadbear » Sun 21 Jan 2007, 22:10:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cynicalheretic', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', '
')Without correcting the weird core beliefs, character defects, and ego distortions, your prescription would end up more like a recipe for Nazi superman fascism. We don't need to invent everything we need, we need to disinvent a lot of the crap we've accumulated, and learn to live a more Spartan existence.



So are you advocating getting rid of personal computers?


Hell was created for people asking just such questions. :lol:
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Re: Could Transhumanism save the American System?

Unread postby threadbear » Sun 21 Jan 2007, 22:11:54

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smiley', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')ctually some of the greatest geniuses in history believed in God or were in fact followers of Jesus Christ.

To name a few - Nicholas Copernicus, Sir Fancis Bacon, Galileo Galilei, William Thomson Kelvin, Isaac Newton and so on.


When Einstein was confronted with the quantum-physics and the uncertainty principle, he uttered the famous words:

"God does not throw dice"

At that point he realized that religion (i.e. to believe in a present and acting God) is incompatible with modern physics. Physics do not allow a creator to exist and act. If physics are true then God isn't and visa versa. There is no middle way.

With that I don't want to imply that smart men don't believe in God.

However it does seem that science has transgressed to a point where it excludes the presence of such an entity.


You aren't a big fan of the primacy of consciousness idea, are you.
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