by Heineken » Sun 21 Jan 2007, 10:13:03
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Madpaddy', 'H')eineken,
I agree with you. The Dutch know this too. That's why they bought up the best land in West Cork in Ireland about 30 years ago.
Expat Dutch and Germans are very strong drivers of environmental awareness in Ireland such as it is.
Interesting, Madpaddy. I wonder if low-country investment in Ireland may have had something to do with Ireland's economic revival?
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by Heineken » Sun 21 Jan 2007, 10:21:15
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AWPrime', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Heineken', 'T')he costs of construction would be unmanageable, and maintenance would be a losing battle. It's expensive enough just to keep a boat shipshape. And how would people live there?
How so?
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')olland's economy will collapse when the country is inundated by the North Sea. There won't be any economic context for floating Dutch cities.
That is why were are looking for a solution and possible start for construction before SHTF.
Look, I don't claim to be an expert in floating-city construction and maintenance. But I doubt if anyone else is either. My comments are based on common sense and observation. Most of these grandiose plans for salvation never make it. They're too impractical and too costly. Floating cities, even if built, would surely create as many problems for their "crewmen" as they solved.
It's far cheaper simply to move inland.
When the world's coastlines are inundated by the sea and over half the world's population is displaced, and PO has come and gone, can you imagine what economic and social and environmental conditions will be like?
How would floating cities get the extensive materials they need to function? How would they pay for them?
The idea is crazy on its face.
by AWPrime » Sun 21 Jan 2007, 15:13:37
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Heineken', 'L')ook, I don't claim to be an expert in floating-city construction and maintenance. But I doubt if anyone else is either. My comments are based on common sense and observation. Most of these grandiose plans for salvation never make it. They're too impractical and too costly. Floating cities, even if built, would surely create as many problems for their "crewmen" as they solved.
The basic construction is quite simple, so it isn't too grandiose.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')t's far cheaper simply to move inland.
The same can be said about polders. However we have no choice and the remaining land can't replace the land lost in the worst case scenario.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hen the world's coastlines are inundated by the sea and over half the world's population is displaced, and PO has come and gone, can you imagine what will economic and social and environmental conditions be like?
That is why countries need to take action before that happens.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')ow would floating cities get the extensive materials they need to function? How would they pay for them?
by AWPrime » Sun 21 Jan 2007, 19:32:54
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Heineken', 'I')'m sorry, AWPrime, but the most likely outcome of the coming huge rises in sea level, coinciding with post-Peak Oil disruptions in the world economy, is that Holland will largely cease to exist.
Consider it a Hoover dam.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')o think that you can, in essence, "float" the country is hubris, if not madness.
An entire country, no. But large industrial and residential parts, maybe.
In the worst case we will lose the west side of the country (most of the population and industry), the east side (most of the agriculture) should be fine. This can happen in several years.