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I think I went and seen the wrong movies over the holidays

Unread postby Lore » Mon 08 Jan 2007, 01:34:50

It all started with Apocalyto, you know that Mel Gibson, Naked Pray type movie that showed the prolonged and brutally, graphically violent last days of the storied Mayan Civilization . All in sub titles with heads rolling, hearts being torn out and baby bashing. Not really too far fetched from today’s headlines.

Then onto Blood Diamond with Leonardo DiCaprio as a South African wise guy, out to make a buck off the backs of the misfortunate natives. The movie was washed red with scenes of vicious tribal militias that raided villages and kidnaped children to brainwash into little killing machines. A rather lovely picture of human dignity.

Finally, just this last week I caught Children of Men, where the year is 2027 and globally woman have not been able to have children for 18 yrs. The world had fallen into a kind of a Mad Max Movie #1 societal upheaval. We're left to guess that it might be because the wheels of economic growth had fallen off without any future generations to barter with. Great Britain was the only island left of semi-sanity. However, even they are at the point of executing and encamping the "fugies" as they called them, refugees from other countries that struggled to make it there. Now the British become the perpetrators of their own holocaust.

If movies are a reflection of what people are thinking and feeling today then I believe there is not much long term optimism out there after seeing these. Oh well… there is always that movie about the penguins, what’s it called… Happy Feet; exit stage left!
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Re: I think I went and seen the wrong movies over the holida

Unread postby WildRose » Mon 08 Jan 2007, 01:47:45

You could add to the above another movie which may reflect what some are thinking about, "The Good Shepherd" with Matt Damon and Angelina Jolie. It's about how the Skull and Bones group keep their hand in power.

It was interesting, but decidedly a "downer" kind of movie.

I think I'm ready for a good comedy!
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Re: I think I went and seen the wrong movies over the holida

Unread postby Ayame » Mon 08 Jan 2007, 04:50:16

You should have just stayed at home and watched Chitty Chitty Bang Bang :lol:

Perfect sheeple entertainment!
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Re: I think I went and seen the wrong movies over the holida

Unread postby EndDays » Sun 14 Jan 2007, 15:34:37

"Though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for You are with me; Your rod and Your staff they comfort me." (Psalm 23:4)

There's always hope man, even in the most hopeless situations. Obviously I'm a Christian, but even if you're not you should've checked out the Nativity Story, a great movie about God's humilty and love for us. Its a great reminder that no matter where this world is headed, He did something incredibly loving and humble by paying our debt nearly 2000 years ago.

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Re: I think I went and seen the wrong movies over the holida

Unread postby Lore » Sun 14 Jan 2007, 18:18:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EndDays', '[')i]"Though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for You are with me; Your rod and Your staff they comfort me." (Psalm 23:4)

There's always hope man, even in the most hopeless situations. Obviously I'm a Christian, but even if you're not you should've checked out the Nativity Story, a great movie about God's humilty and love for us. Its a great reminder that no matter where this world is headed, He did something incredibly loving and humble by paying our debt nearly 2000 years ago.

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The Reason I didn't see it, but glad to see Hollywood got some of your Christmas money this season.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')hough The Nativity Story will likely score huge returns for its producers—if only on DVD—the film has all the sword-and-sandal stiffness and none of the camp splendor of its predecessors (except for Alessandro Giuggioli, pleasingly horrid as Herod's ambitious son Antipas). It's hard to imagine this Biblical epic on a budget enlightening or genuinely interesting anyone other than Sunday School students looking for a little more social context for the bare-bones tale, and even they risk boredom. The Nativity Story's self-satisfaction peaks when a twinkly-eyed Magi asks, as if to the audience, "How's your faith now?"
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Re: I think I went and seen the wrong movies over the holida

Unread postby Chicken_Little » Sun 14 Jan 2007, 19:03:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EndDays', '[')i]"Though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for You are with me; Your rod and Your staff they comfort me." (Psalm 23:4)

There's always hope man, even in the most hopeless situations. Obviously I'm a Christian, but even if you're not you should've checked out the Nativity Story, a great movie about God's humilty and love for us. Its a great reminder that no matter where this world is headed, He did something incredibly loving and humble by paying our debt nearly 2000 years ago.

ED


Shame God fucked up so badly by placing all those hydrocarbon reserves in the Earth, thus causing the Greenhouse Effect after they were burned by humans (as they obviously would be).

Maybe things would have been much better if He simply hadn't bothered doing that.

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Re: I think I went and seen the wrong movies over the holida

Unread postby mgibbons19 » Mon 15 Jan 2007, 11:02:16

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EndDays', 'H')e did something incredibly loving and humble by paying our debt nearly 2000 years ago.

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Re: I think I went and seen the wrong movies over the holida

Unread postby mgibbons19 » Mon 15 Jan 2007, 11:08:47

Seriously though, for those who follow Strauss and Howe, these movies should theoretically reflect the public sentiment entering a secular winter. Ppl should (again theoretically) begin seeing serious underlying structural problems, feeling very grim about fixing them, and starting to lose hope.

Interesting.

Also to note. EndDays' views fit in perfectly too, because ppl will look for some beacon of light to organize their hope around. I would expect religious seriousness to increase in the next 20 years. But until ppl start overcoming their differences to face the coagulating problems, we have not reached midwinter. the simple fact that I was the third to crack a joke at EndDays' expense, shows that we're not there yet.
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Re: I think I went and seen the wrong movies over the holida

Unread postby NEOPO » Mon 15 Jan 2007, 11:19:21

ya know when you want to say something but you know it will result in an endless circle jerk so you simply refrain from speaking?
Yeah!!!! :lol:
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Re: I think I went and seen the wrong movies over the holida

Unread postby Omnitir » Mon 15 Jan 2007, 22:58:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lore', ' ')Oh well… there is always that movie about the penguins, what’s it called… Happy Feet; exit stage left!

Uh, do you actually know what Happy Feet is about? It’s about a civilization living in impending doom as the resources of the land (fish) mysteriously dry up. The central character essentially struggles to alert the penguin populace that they need to change their ways and strive for solutions while the penguin elders refuse to allow change in the system that has previously been so beneficial. I can’t say much else without ruining the story, but the film presents very serious issues dressed in a fun outing about singing and dancing. Personally I found it far more poignant and depressing then Apocalyto. Happy Feet could perhaps be the best and most important animated film ever. Every child should see it.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')If movies are a reflection of what people are thinking and feeling today then I believe there is not much long term optimism out there after seeing these.
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Re: I think I went and seen the wrong movies over the holida

Unread postby Benzin » Mon 15 Jan 2007, 23:31:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Chicken_Little', 'S')hame God fucked up so badly by placing all those hydrocarbon reserves in the Earth, thus causing the Greenhouse Effect after they were burned by humans (as they obviously would be).

Maybe things would have been much better if He simply hadn't bothered doing that.

edit to remove pointlessly offensive material. sorry.


Shouldn't we really be asking, "Why did God put all of that oil in the middle east? Why not just all in Texas?" Right?

Ditto on what Omnitir said. Seems as though there are small signs of everything popping up here and there in the media. PO not withstanding, we've got a lot against us as a species. Only time will tell how everything plays out. What bothers me is we could have avoided much of this mess if we had the foresight to see past greed and money. *shrug.
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Re: I think I went and seen the wrong movies over the holida

Unread postby medicvet » Fri 19 Jan 2007, 02:41:08

So yer saying I should just stick with 'Night at the Museum'? or would that make me cry for the dinosaurs? Or Robin Williams career?

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Re: I think I went and seen the wrong movies over the holida

Unread postby mgibbons19 » Fri 19 Jan 2007, 11:06:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Benzin', '
')Shouldn't we really be asking, "Why did God put all of that oil in the middle east? Why not just all in Texas?" Right?


How did all our oil get under their sand?
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Re: I think I went and seen the wrong movies over the holida

Unread postby Aimrehtopyh » Fri 19 Jan 2007, 13:09:23

Some jackass gave my sons a dvd of pixars "Cars" for christmas. Cute story, decent moral, but it tweaks my Peak Oil nerve right to the limit.

The only character that seems to have any kind of clue is voiced by George Carlin and is presented as a stoner/greenie/tinfoil hatter. Just imagine a "Disneyfied" clone of NEOPO.
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