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Re: Bloggers Who Criticize Government May Face Prison

Unread postby eric_b » Thu 18 Jan 2007, 23:05:30

Unbelievable. Surreal. I hope it's a sensationalist piece, but they did have many different citations in it. I'd like to see them ever try to enforce these proposals.

When I'm out on the street things seem about the same as they've always been around these parts. More crowded and little meaner perhaps, but that's about it. There does seem to be a strange undercurrent though.
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Re: Bloggers Who Criticize Government May Face Prison

Unread postby TITAN » Fri 19 Jan 2007, 00:43:05

When they start seriously hitting people in their homes, as this certainly will, I think will be when americans finally fight back. It's going to take a little more though, say they start arresting people for watching Democracy Now on LinkTV or even The Countdown on MSNBC, that's when people will take action.

You can take away an americans freedom of everything, but don't take away their TV or internet interests...

If China could knock out the satellite that broadcasts American Idol and blame it on the us govt., that would surely get the rebellion in full swing...


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Re: Bloggers Who Criticize Government May Face Prison

Unread postby dukey » Fri 19 Jan 2007, 00:51:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'F')irst they came for the Communists but i was not a Communist so i did not speak out.
Then they came for the Socialists and the Trade Unionists but i was not one of them so I did not speak out.
Then they came for the Jews but I was not Jewish so I did not speak out.
And when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out.


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Re: Bloggers Who Criticize Government May Face Prison

Unread postby cynicalheretic » Fri 19 Jan 2007, 01:43:23

Correct me if I am wrong, the major problem isn't from this law inasmuch as potential new laws that may spring from this one that would be used to further restrict. According to this I have to make at least 25,000 a quarter from my website (never going to happen)
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Re: Bloggers Who Criticize Government May Face Prison

Unread postby Micki » Fri 19 Jan 2007, 01:48:08

According to the article I linked it states the following;
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '"')The bill would require reporting of 'paid efforts to stimulate
grassroots lobbying,' but defines 'paid' merely as communications to 500 or
more members of the public, with no other qualifiers.


i.e. no specific dollar amount is mentioned.

If the wording is correct I find this part even more disturbing;
"efforts to stimulate grassroots lobbying".
That means you are not necessarily lobbying yourself, you are just stimulating lobbying.

I could however not see if it requires repeat action or if once off is enough.
Example, if someone writes 1 post supporting a grassroot movement like 911truth or the ones demanding evidence of income tax law etc. and that post is read by more then 500, would that meet the criteria?
Another question is then if someone can register after the event or could a court claim someone wasn't registerred when the posting was made.
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Re: Bloggers Who Criticize Government May Face Prison

Unread postby gego » Fri 19 Jan 2007, 02:56:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ElijahJones', ' ')

I think that most of our public servants and elected officials are good and professional and are trying to work within a system that has allowed for a lot of progress.


Just when I was starting to develop some respect for your thinking, and you make a statement like this! I will attribute it to your youthful inexperience.
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Re: Bloggers Who Criticize Government May Face Prison

Unread postby NEOPO » Fri 19 Jan 2007, 03:20:02

Describe your apathy in 10,000 words or less... go! :o

EJ is so fundy it aint fundy 8)
I wonder if he would allow this kind of dissent:

This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it.
Abraham Lincoln

Here in America we a descended in blood and in spirit from revolutionists and rebels- men and women who dared to dissent from accepted doctrine. As their heirs, we may never confuse honest dissent with disloyal subversion.
Dwight Eisenhower

Everything I see about me is sowing the seeds of a revolution that is inevitable, though I shall not have the pleasure of seeing it. The lightning is so close at hand that it will strike at the first chance, and then there will be a pretty uproar. The young are fortunate, for they will see fine things.
Voltaire

Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.
John F. Kennedy

EJ - you would probably make it illegal to take god's name in vain or some such nonsense. Your writing makes my eyes glaze over and my brain go numb.
What Gego ever saw in you...I do not :shock:
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Re: Bloggers Who Criticize Government May Face Prison

Unread postby shakespear1 » Fri 19 Jan 2007, 05:20:57

$this->bbcode_second_pass_code('', 'Anyone knows what the status is of the proposition that any residents leaving the US would have to register (or apply) first? I think there was a decision supposed to be made during Jan. ')

This is what you had to do in the Communist days in Poland and in other Soviet States !!!

This does NOT sound funny and who the hell has this idea? :? :? :?
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Re: Bloggers Who Criticize Government May Face Prison

Unread postby dukey » Fri 19 Jan 2007, 12:48:32

Anti-First Amendment S.1 Passes Congress

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')t was bad enough George Bush Senior found it necessary to blame bloggers for creating what he deems an “adversarial and ugly climate” (never mind his particular bit of ugliness in Iraq more than a decade ago, eventually resulting in the murder of more than a million people), last month we had the Manchurian candidate, John McCain, introducing legislation “that would fine blogs up to $300,000 for offensive statements, photos and videos posted by visitors on comment boards, effectively nixing the open exchange of ideas on the Internet, providing a lethal injection for unrestrained opinion, and acting as the latest attack tool to chill freedom of speech on the world wide web,” as Paul Joseph Watson writes for Prison Planet.


http://kurtnimmo.com/?p=722
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Re: Bloggers Who Criticize Government May Face Prison

Unread postby mmasters » Fri 19 Jan 2007, 13:21:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dukey', '[')b]Anti-First Amendment S.1 Passes Congress


http://kurtnimmo.com/?p=722[/quote]

!?!?!?

I couldnt' open that link at work. Tell me it didn't pass though!
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Re: Bloggers Who Criticize Government May Face Prison

Unread postby dukey » Fri 19 Jan 2007, 13:36:56

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')n a victory for grassroots activists across the country, Republicans stood united Thursday night and helped strike Section 220 from the Senate Ethics Bill. This section would have put undue regulations on the activities of grassroots organizations. Almost all Democrats voted to keep Section 220 in the bill.

By a 55 to 43 vote, the Bennett Amendment which would strike Section 220 from the Senate Ethics Bill (S. 1) passed with unanimous support from Republicans. Seven Democrats supported the amendment while all other Democrats voted against it.
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Re: Bloggers Who Criticize Government May Face Prison

Unread postby Novus » Fri 19 Jan 2007, 14:17:51

I just think Alex Jones is afraid he is going to jail. I don't see the government rounding up Peak Oilers any time soon.
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Re: Bloggers Who Criticize Government May Face Prison

Unread postby mmasters » Fri 19 Jan 2007, 17:25:10

Do a google news search on "grassroots"

They pulled the grassroots legislation out of the bill at the last minute.

http://www.gopusa.com/theloft/?p=400
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Re: Bloggers Who Criticize Government May Face Prison

Unread postby firestarter » Fri 19 Jan 2007, 17:46:34

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dukey', ' ')Almost all Democrats voted to keep Section 220 in the bill.





Too many Democraps think the First Amendment's primary purpose is to protect a smut joint's right to exist along-side a residential neighborhood. Buttmunchers.
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Re: Bloggers Who Criticize Government May Face Prison

Unread postby eric_b » Sat 20 Jan 2007, 01:45:34

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ElijahJones', '
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(Responding to 'NEOPO')

Maybe he saw someone he thought would be an easy convert to the ridiculous and slanderous theories about the government that you seem to relish so highly. As for being a fundy, I am certainly not that,
(...)


NEOPO's a bot. The fact you just wasted so many keystrokes responding to this program probably has its authors rolling on the floor laughing. Just ignore him. Same thing goes for 'RAPHAEL' - another bot.
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