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Plunging male testosterone levels

Unread postby eric_b » Wed 17 Jan 2007, 01:02:20

Got this off LATOC breaking news section. Figure it can be filed uder the 'slowly poisoning ourselves' category.

http://www.ourstolenfuture.org/NewScien ... netal.html
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Re: Plunging male testosterone levels

Unread postby Benzin » Wed 17 Jan 2007, 01:18:53

I must have missed it, but I didn't see any explanations as to why this was occurring? Also the study consisted of a small sample size, focused on a certain demographic in a specific area. I wouldn't completely discredit the study, nor would I put that much stock in it at the same time.

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Unread postby PolestaR » Wed 17 Jan 2007, 01:22:34

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Benzin', 'I') must have missed it, but I didn't see any explanations as to why this was occurring? Also the study consisted of a small sample size, focused on a certain demographic in a specific area. I wouldn't completely discredit the study, nor would I put that much stock in it at the same time.

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I'd suspect it is related to losing lean muscle mass, inactivity and body fat percentages. Just using your thigh muscles to lift shit gives you a T boost.
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Re: Plunging male testosterone levels

Unread postby eric_b » Wed 17 Jan 2007, 01:35:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Benzin', 'I') must have missed it, but I didn't see any explanations as to why this was occurring? Also the study consisted of a small sample size, focused on a certain demographic in a specific area. I wouldn't completely discredit the study, nor would I put that much stock in it at the same time.

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That's the scary part, it's not really understood why this is happening - but it is happening.

Certain classes of chemicals are now found everwhere in the environment - for example bisphenols and phthalates (used to soften plastics, which are ubiquitous in the environment). Apparently these molecules act as endocrine disrupters, and, paradoxically, the smaller the amount (parts-per-trillion quantities) the more damage they can cause. There's also the FACT that heavy metals, like mercury and lead, are now far more common in the environment than they were just 100-200 years ago. Seem to recall reading somewhere 'modern' human skeletons now contain hundreds of times the amount of these elements than they used to. Large amounts of plastic trash are also found now found everywhere, including the oceans.

see:
LA times ocean piece

This reminds me of a short sci-fi piece - 'Screwfly solution' - where sterile males are purposely introduced to kill off the species.

{EDIT.. I also believe that, overall, fertility rates have been dropping, globally. }
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Re: Plunging male testosterone levels

Unread postby seldom_seen » Wed 17 Jan 2007, 01:43:09

Xenoestrogens, or yeah what eric-b said.

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Re: Plunging male testosterone levels

Unread postby Zardoz » Wed 17 Jan 2007, 02:04:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he data in this study are "important because they provide independent support for the concerns raised earlier about the reproductive health of men." ... "it would be unwise to dismiss these reports as mere statistical aberrations because of the potential threat these trends-- if confirmed-- pose to the survival of the human race and other living residents of our planet."

Well, perhaps this is another way we'll reduce the population, so this is actually good news, but I'm worried about the "other living residents". Is this happening to other species, as well?
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Re: Plunging male testosterone levels

Unread postby Madpaddy » Wed 17 Jan 2007, 04:02:54

I read a study years ago which connected the reducing sperm count to washing up detergents used for dishes. Even growing up my mother always emphasised the importance of completely rinsing stuff to get all the detergent off. I have 2 boys now and a really bad temper so hurray - she was right.!!!
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Re: Plunging male testosterone levels

Unread postby eric_b » Wed 17 Jan 2007, 09:05:43

Forgot to add there are the tons of pesticides and herbicides that get dumped on the ground every year, and enter the water supply.

A common weed killer, atrazine, has been fingered for causing the hermaphrodite frog syndrome. Unfortunately these things tend to effect the young and developing most - future generations.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news ... Vfrog.html

Always turns my gut when I see those roundup commercials showing some fool spraying the stuff on the weeds growing through the cracks of the driveway.
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Re: Plunging male testosterone levels

Unread postby pup55 » Wed 17 Jan 2007, 09:31:20

I agree with the exercise one.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')ypically testosterone responses to submaximal exercise are somewhat variable and seem dependent on the duration and intensity of exercise. A progressive increase in testosterone occurs during moderate exercise lasting 45 to 90 minutes, but 90 minutes of submaximal exercise has ... been reported to produce no change or slight decreases in testosterone concentration


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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')en "runners" were recruited from local athletic clubs and ten healthy but inactive men from local social clubs. The hormone profiles of all 20 were assessed while at rest and while doing exercise.

The average level of growth hormone was four times higher in the runners , whose testosterone levels were about 25 per cent higher — enough to make a significant difference


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Anyhow this does not surprise me. I have observed young suburban males for a few years now, and found them to be pretty squishy, and I do not belive this is caused by roundup, standing next to or sitting on plastic with DOP in it, or eating too many soybeans. It's due to the fact that a lot of them live in single parent homes (with their moms) and therefore no one is around to get them out of the house and force them to do strenuous labor, or do violent sports.

Maybe this is nature's way of saying "we don't want you lazy males to reproduce". I understand, however, that the same does not necessarily apply to young females, who reproduce better if they are a little chunky.

Anyway, the condition seems to be at least partially reversible. In the meantime, the local illegal alien landscaper population and the local basketball playing population seems to have no problems reproducing, so there appears to be no imminent risk of the species dying out.
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Re: Plunging male testosterone levels

Unread postby firestarter » Wed 17 Jan 2007, 10:28:00

I ran track and played basketball in high school and college in the late 70's. Even back then, most of those who didn't participate in sports seem to be MUCH leaner than today. Today, I look at many of the boys in my son's basketball league and a good percentage of them are overweight. Hell, I've got a neighbor in his 20's who's so obese I'll bet he hasn't seen his own peepee without the aid of a mirror in a long long time. On the bright side, heavier men (and women) seem to be more docile than lean ones. Something to consider when voting for the next president?
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Re: Plunging male testosterone levels

Unread postby pup55 » Wed 17 Jan 2007, 10:56:44

Allow me to quote from the Bard:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'L')et me have men about me that are fat;
Sleek-headed men and such as sleep o' nights:
Yond Cassius has a lean and hungry look;
He thinks too much: such men are dangerous


Julius Caesar, Act 1 Scene 2

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'g')ood percentage of them are overweight


Anyway I told everyone the story about how I coached 11 and 12 year old boys soccer one year, and about a third of the kids could not take two laps around the field without vomiting.
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Re: Plunging male testosterone levels

Unread postby holmes » Wed 17 Jan 2007, 12:44:36

Check out mercury levels in the womb. IQ's as well as test are dropping like stones as well. Heavy metals tend to do that. Add that to the already simian monkey genetics your looking at retardation en mas.
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Re: Plunging male testosterone levels

Unread postby mmasters » Wed 17 Jan 2007, 13:13:14

Anyone else connect these dots?

General population fat and getting fatter; men more effeminate in general, incredible housing inflation/loans that can never be repaid; escapism into plasma tvs and video games; SUVs, Minivans still popular; new kids dumber in schools; enormous college debts; people striving to be individuals on the decline; high paying careers on the decline; everything becoming one stop shopping, just in time delivered; short term "band-aid" fixes encouraged and seemingly available for everything, etc, etc....
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Re: Plunging male testosterone levels

Unread postby holmes » Wed 17 Jan 2007, 13:37:57

Yes the problem is that folks are getting more retarded and can not play connect the dots anymore. Its turning into one big hospital. Planet hospital.
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Re: Plunging male testosterone levels

Unread postby eric_b » Wed 17 Jan 2007, 14:01:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pup55', '
')Anyway, the condition seems to be at least partially reversible. In the meantime, the local illegal alien landscaper population and the local basketball playing population seems to have no problems reproducing, so there appears to be no imminent risk of the species dying out.


Lack of exercise is part of the equation, but there's likely more to it than that.

And I completely agree there's no danger of the species dying out.. at least not in the near future. The 'screwfly solution' bit was tongue-in-cheek
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Re: Plunging male testosterone levels

Unread postby mmasters » Wed 17 Jan 2007, 14:14:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('holmes', 'Y')es the problem is that folks are getting more retarded and can not play connect the dots anymore. Its turning into one big hospital. Planet hospital.
Bloated hanging bellies are weird.

Yeah I hate to imagine what 10 more years of playing these drones and fatties with fear and dismay and taking away their toys is gonna look like. Gonna be one nasty disease pool.
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Re: Plunging male testosterone levels

Unread postby holmes » Wed 17 Jan 2007, 18:51:18

My mom is a respected pshyco therapist in NY that caters to the wealthy. She fears that. Addicts. The fix taken away it will brutal and horrifying. She is not even a doomer. Well she was not at one time. Too much inertia now for anyone with an IQ above 100 to think otherwise. If you think your baby and their baby are going to have a smooth "dream" you might just have mercury eating away your brain. Or your just a really dense fool. Hahaha. I do chuckle when I see a new born. In a horrifying way that is. Like to hide my dismay. Oil is a great insulator.
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