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Unread postby Kylon » Thu 04 Jan 2007, 23:02:14

I was thinking, what if conservative christian families got legally "divorced" but still did all the stuff that married people do, so that the women could draw welfare, while still being stay at home moms with the kids, then the dad could provide resources for the family, and so they'd get welfare money + daddies income.

They could also get free medical and all that Jazz.

If dead beats and hoes can get government handouts, why not hard working honest people?

Would it be legal?


P.S I don't support Bush.
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Re: What do you think about this idea?

Unread postby NEOPO » Thu 04 Jan 2007, 23:10:38

What makes you believe that CC's are hard working and honest?
What makes you think that only dead beats and ho's take government handouts?
The oil companies are still collecting millions of .gov handouts.

Same with most agribusiness A.K.A "poor farmers" yeah right!

Add it all up - the elite have taken much more then the poor.
It is easier to enslave a people that wish to remain free then it is to free a people who wish to remain enslaved.
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Re: What do you think about this idea?

Unread postby gego » Thu 04 Jan 2007, 23:27:26

Aside from the legality, you are a little late in thinking up that one.

One of my buddies owned a 100 unit subsidized apartment complex occupied by low income residents. He told me that all the renters were unmarried women, on welfare with children, but that most of them had boyfriends who often spent the night (which officially went unnoticed) , and who often were the fathers of the children.

He said that they managed to get most of their rent paid by the government, got food stamps, plus some spending cash and then the boyfriend made what he could at a job. Everyone lived happily ever after, and the welfare people never knew the difference or did not care since they were also happily living off their own government paycheck. The government was never smart enough to question how these women on welfare could drive around in a car, buy clothes, tv's and the like, go out to Kentucky Fried for lunch and pay for all the extras.

I think this is a common scam.
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Re: What do you think about this idea?

Unread postby Bas » Thu 04 Jan 2007, 23:28:23

you'd need to live apart for that (at least in this country) and then the benefits would be close to zero, plus it wouldn't be much fun. + if you're cought you get to pay a whole lot more than those marginal benefits you might have enjoyed from the scam...and they do have a fraud squad for stuff like this, again, at least in this country.
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Re: What do you think about this idea?

Unread postby Schneider » Fri 05 Jan 2007, 01:29:49

gego..are you trying to tell us that your friend is indirectly making a living out of the welfare state :lol: !?

Sorry man,couldn't resist :oops:..

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Re: What do you think about this idea?

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Fri 05 Jan 2007, 03:50:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hat do you think about this idea?

Social Security fraud is becoming to be major source of income in first world countries excersizing extensive welfare programs.
About 20% of poorest/greediest are doing it in one form or another.

I am aware of family in UK (our neighbours in the past), who separated, then jobless wife got council house and housing benefit and her husband mooved to live with her few weeks later, so they could rent family home for extra income (they had made one of family members to be a "bogus owner for official purpose only").
Woman was also claiming some benefits related to bringing family in hardship (single parent, you know...).
As long, as I am aware they were never cought.
They were not even shamed to blubber it to my wife (presumably to show, how clever they are).

As long as SS exist, there will be SS fraud.
Money recovery from such fraudsters is often illusion. After decades of fraud they are usually "asset free", when caught...and most of them are never caught.
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Re: What do you think about this idea?

Unread postby gg3 » Fri 05 Jan 2007, 09:12:02

Same as it ever was.

But let's not forget it's the same across the spectrum.

The ex-CEO of Home Despot, just recently let-go-of, turned in a mediocre performance for the company and left with a golden parachute worth $221 million. Almost a quarter of a billion dollars for a not-quite-failing grade. The fact that he was "merely" ripping off the shareholders rather than the taxpayers shouldn't diminish the gravity of his situation, and many similar situations.
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Re: What do you think about this idea?

Unread postby gego » Fri 05 Jan 2007, 14:21:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schneider', 'g')ego..are you trying to tell us that your friend is indirectly making a living out of the welfare state :lol: !?

Sorry man,couldn't resist :oops:..

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Yes he was. It is hard to work and not receiving some government money when half of the income in the country is taken away from people in one form of federal, state or local tax and then spent by those governments.
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Re: What do you think about this idea?

Unread postby Pretorian » Fri 05 Jan 2007, 18:20:27

waisted, not spent. However its hard to blame people for wanting a free ride.
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Re: What do you think about this idea?

Unread postby Denny » Fri 05 Jan 2007, 23:03:06

I don't see how one could be a good Christian and participate in a welfare scam at the same time.

(Please, I know some of you will point out that a whole heap of televangelists are among the biggest of scammers, but I think many of them aren't real followers of Christ in the first place.)
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Re: What do you think about this idea?

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Sat 06 Jan 2007, 04:58:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Denny', 'I') don't see how one could be a good Christian and participate in a welfare scam at the same time.

Some of them may consider welfare scam as a rightful recovery of money stolen from them as a tax in the first place.
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Re: What do you think about this idea?

Unread postby Pretorian » Sat 06 Jan 2007, 04:59:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Denny', 'I') don't see how one could be a good Christian and participate in a welfare scam at the same time.

(Please, I know some of you will point out that a whole heap of televangelists are among the biggest of scammers, but I think many of them aren't real followers of Christ in the first place.)


There is a whole heap of priests, pastors, ets from catholic, orthodocsal, protestant churches who are among the biggest scammers, never work, leach off Christians and doing their
A-holes as their main occupation.
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