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Search Engines Use More Power Than Las Vegas

Unread postby Bleep » Sat 30 Dec 2006, 16:29:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')url=http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/opinion/article/0,1299,DRMN_38_5245730,00.html]Power gridlock (link)[/url]

Colorado's electricity infrastructure needs jump-start on expansions

By Ray Gifford And Adam Peters
December 30, 2006
Techno-pundit George Gilder toured an Ask.com server farm not long ago and described his experience in an article written for Wired.

Ask.com is the fastest-growing search engine on the Web. But the Ask.com server farm, which is currently housed on the East Coast, probably won't be located there much longer.

There isn't enough available electricity to power the servers, hard drives and air-conditioning equipment that is needed to meet Ask.com's burgeoning business needs, so the company is scoping out property in the Columbia River Valley of the Pacific Northwest, following competitors like Google, Microsoft and Yahoo! in a quest for affordable and reliable sources of energy.

...skip...

Standing alone, the five leading Internet search engines will consume 5 gigawatts of electricity in 2006. That equates to the amount of electricity needed to run the city of Las Vegas.

Of course technology doesn't stand still
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Re: Search Engines Use More Power Than Las Vegas

Unread postby Loki » Sat 30 Dec 2006, 16:53:35

Google has already set up a large facility in the Columbia Gorge. Lots of cheap hydropower here. Who needs salmon anyway?
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Re: Search Engines Use More Power Than Las Vegas

Unread postby coyote » Sat 30 Dec 2006, 17:34:34

:shock: That's stunning. I had no idea.
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Re: Search Engines Use More Power Than Las Vegas

Unread postby Carlhole » Sat 30 Dec 2006, 17:38:39

How do Google and those other make so much money?
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Unread postby morph » Sat 30 Dec 2006, 17:39:05

wow, another fact i can add to my brains collection lol
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Re: Search Engines Use More Power Than Las Vegas

Unread postby Starvid » Sat 30 Dec 2006, 18:03:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', 'H')ow do Google and those other make so much money?
They sell an incredibly useful service.
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Re: Search Engines Use More Power Than Las Vegas

Unread postby inquiry » Sat 30 Dec 2006, 18:10:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Starvid', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', 'H')ow do Google and those other make so much money?
They sell an incredibly useful service.


When TSHTF and the Infinite Growth Ponzi Pyramid Schemes of Capitalism can no longer be propped up by the vacuum of free energy, when businesses close their doors left and right and Big Corporations all begin downsizing, merging, and filing bankruptcy, whats going to feed Google's Energy Las Vegas?

Can you say GoodBye Google??
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Re: Search Engines Use More Power Than Las Vegas

Unread postby davep » Sat 30 Dec 2006, 18:15:24

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('inquiry', 'C')an you say GoodBye Google??


Well. in that scenario there would be far less people idly surfing the web, so I guess Google could switch off half their servers and reduce the CPU speed by half for the rest.

BTW, energy efficiency is becoming more and more important in server farms. This wasn't even discussed two or three years ago.

I was choosing a supplier for a web-hosting solution for the British Gevernment earlier this year. We chose the one that would give us three years guaranteed energy pricing (above technical considerations). This (to me) is indicative of peak oil (or at least the spiralling costs associated with near peak oil).
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Re: Search Engines Use More Power Than Las Vegas

Unread postby frankthetank » Sun 31 Dec 2006, 00:21:01

They should just all pitch some stockholders money in and buy a big nuclear power plant and set it up in North Dakota. Hell, in the winter just open the doors, who needs fans or ac?

Think of all the waste heat that is thrown away from these server farms... They should try to find a use for it???HOt tubs?
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Re: Search Engines Use More Power Than Las Vegas

Unread postby Harlequin » Sun 31 Dec 2006, 02:43:55

I'm no tech-savvy but I think computers have to be kept at a certain internal temperature to stop them from messing up.

They probably do get their power from Nuklear plants.
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Re: Search Engines Use More Power Than Las Vegas

Unread postby Concerned » Sun 31 Dec 2006, 07:40:30

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', 'H')ow do Google and those other make so much money?


Foolish people continue to purchase shares in a company at price to earnings ratios that are truly mind boggling.

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Re: Search Engines Use More Power Than Las Vegas

Unread postby Carlhole » Sun 31 Dec 2006, 09:16:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Concerned', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', 'H')ow do Google and those other make so much money?


Foolish people continue to purchase shares in a company at price to earnings ratios that are truly mind boggling.

It's all blue sky and great fun while music plays.


No, I mean, there HAS to be some kind of cash flow going on there.

Is it all just advertising and google Adwords and all that? Does that add up to billions? I was wondering what exactly were the primary profit leaders at Google.

I KNOW they offer a useful service; I use Google everyday - for free.
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Re: Search Engines Use More Power Than Las Vegas

Unread postby SoothSayer » Sun 31 Dec 2006, 12:19:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_code('', 'I was wondering what exactly were the primary profit leaders at Google. ')
Adwords must be key.

I run a tiny business ... BUT ... I spend MANY $1000 annually on Adwords.

Why? Because they work.

Scale that revenue across the globe.
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Re: Search Engines Use More Power Than Las Vegas

Unread postby grabby » Sun 31 Dec 2006, 15:20:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('inquiry', '
')When TSHTF and the Infinite Growth Ponzi Pyramid Schemes of Capitalism can no longer be propped up by the vacuum of free energy, when businesses close their doors left and right and Big Corporations all begin downsizing, merging, and filing bankruptcy, whats going to feed Google's Energy Las Vegas?



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Re: Search Engines Use More Power Than Las Vegas

Unread postby Licho » Sun 31 Dec 2006, 22:43:00

Lol, they meant 5000 GWh over one year!! (Lousy journalists don't even know basic unit's and can't differentiate energy from power)

That's not so much and is far less than Las Vegas needs. 5000 GWh per year equals to 570MW of constant power, which is much less than Las Vegas needs ..
it's just about a quarter of my nearest nuclear powerplant .. or about 1.2% of currently installed wind power in EU.
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Re: Search Engines Use More Power Than Las Vegas

Unread postby Armageddon » Mon 01 Jan 2007, 01:40:20

It sure did seem out of whack. Thanks for clarifying.
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