U.N. envoy says Gaza a prison for Palestinians (Reuters)
I'm glad some people still have integrity and say the truth that they see, even if it may cost them their job for being "politically incorrect".
Aaron: it seems the UN also uses the term "ethnic cleansing" to describe forced expulsion. Hmmm...$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]GENEVA (Reuters) - Israel has turned the Gaza Strip into a prison for Palestinians where life is "intolerable, appalling, tragic" and the Jewish state appears to have thrown away the key, a U.N. human rights envoy said on Tuesday. Israel hit back saying there was an "alarming disconnect" between the rapporteur's report to the U.N.'s human rights watchdog and the experience of Israelis who continued to "face the daily threat of Palestinian terrorism."
Dugard said that three-quarters of Gaza's 1.4 million people were dependent on food aid. Bombing raids by Israel since the June 25 capture of an army corporal by Palestinian militants had destroyed houses and the territory's only power plant."Gaza is a prison and Israel seems to have thrown away the key," he said. Dugard also attacked the United States, the European Union and Canada for withdrawing funding for the Palestinian Authority in protest at the governing party Hamas's refusal to accept Israel's right to exist.
"Israel violates international law as expounded by the Security Council and the International Court of Justice and goes unpunished. But the Palestinian people are punished for having democratically elected a regime unacceptable to Israel, the U.S. and the EU," Dugard said. Palestinians living between the barrier and the Green Line, the frontier at the end of the 1967 Arab-Israeli war, could no longer freely access schools and places of work and many had abandoned local farms, he said. "In other countries this process might be described as ethnic cleansing but political correctness forbids such language where Israel is concerned," Dugard said.
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Re: U.N. envoy says Gaza a prison for Palestinians (Reuters)
by rwwff » Tue 26 Sep 2006, 13:32:50
The Palestinians are free to elect whomever they want.
The US and other countries are free to give food to whomever they want If the Palestinians want stuff that the US has, they have to give something that the US wants; thats how trade works. If it is not worth the trade from the Palestinians' point of view, the US is under no obligation to give it to them anyway for free.
Basically, this is the situation that develops when the loser of a war, refuses to recognize that they lost; yet helplessly demands they no longer be subject to the actions of war.
The US and other countries are free to give food to whomever they want If the Palestinians want stuff that the US has, they have to give something that the US wants; thats how trade works. If it is not worth the trade from the Palestinians' point of view, the US is under no obligation to give it to them anyway for free.
Basically, this is the situation that develops when the loser of a war, refuses to recognize that they lost; yet helplessly demands they no longer be subject to the actions of war.
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Re: U.N. envoy says Gaza a prison for Palestinians (Reuters)
by Miki » Tue 26 Sep 2006, 14:13:32
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rwwff', 'T')he Palestinians are free to elect whomever they want.
The US and other countries are free to give food to whomever they want If the Palestinians want stuff that the US has, they have to give something that the US wants; thats how trade works. If it is not worth the trade from the Palestinians' point of view, the US is under no obligation to give it to them anyway for free.
The US and other countries are free to give food to whomever they want If the Palestinians want stuff that the US has, they have to give something that the US wants; thats how trade works. If it is not worth the trade from the Palestinians' point of view, the US is under no obligation to give it to them anyway for free.
I thought human rights were not dependent on "trade", but your government is obviously a prostitute.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')asically, this is the situation that develops when the loser of a war, refuses to recognize that they lost; yet helplessly demands they no longer be subject to the actions of war.
1-This is not about "losing a war". Refusing to accept the existence of the state of Israel has nothing to do with losing the war: it is about a fundamental human right (the right to return), the recognition of UN resolutions that Israel accepted, democracy, and the illegal status of Israel's occupation of the Palestinian Territories.
Even if they lost the war, all these facts still stand. It is Israel who is refusing to recognize the Palestinians' right to have a state, by rejecting their right to have a sovereign state and return to their land, and systematically violating their human rights.
2-What would "accepting losing the war" entail? Should 100% of Palestinians leave their land and become poor refugees that live from the charity of other nations for the Israelis to have the 20% of the land that is left? Will that be good enough, or should they stand in line to be slaughtered, just to make sure no one decides to return to their land after and/or join a guerrilla? That is basically what Israel is slowly doing with them anyway.
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Re: U.N. envoy says Gaza a prison for Palestinians (Reuters)
by nwildmand » Tue 26 Sep 2006, 15:38:29
youve conviniently left this out of the article.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')srael says its security restrictions, which include the construction of a steel and concrete barrier in the
West Bank, are designed to stop suicide bombers entering Israel. Bombings have declined since the barrier was built.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')srael says its security restrictions, which include the construction of a steel and concrete barrier in the
West Bank, are designed to stop suicide bombers entering Israel. Bombings have declined since the barrier was built.
i suppose you dont think israel has a right to protect itself from suicide bombers?
i just posted this on another thread
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wikipedia', '^') The Gaza Strip has one of the highest overall growth rates and population densities in the world. The 2006 population was 1,428,757 giving the region a population density of 3,750 persons per sq km (9,712 per sq mi). More than half of Gazans live in the region's urban centers, the largest of which is the city of Gaza.
you dont honestly expect israel to absorb these rabbits.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Miki', '2')-What would "accepting losing the war" entail? Should 100% of Palestinians leave their land and become poor refugees that live from the charity of other nations for the Israelis to have the 20% of the land that is left?
how is that so different from their situation know.
and that solutution would work for me.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Miki', 'W')ill that be good enough, or should they stand in line to be slaughtered, just to make sure no one decides to return to their land after and/or join a guerrilla?
that would work for me also.
peakoil famine/genocide. they are all going to die one way or another.
