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Re: Recent Video on Peak Oil

Postby kokoda » Sun 10 Dec 2006, 07:07:19

Once again you are trying to deceive people by showing extreme closeups.

If you were honest you would show a wide angle shot.

I suppose you think these people are all liars and are in on your ridiculous conspiracy theory.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/911_p ... esses.html

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Re: Recent Video on Peak Oil

Postby dukey » Sun 10 Dec 2006, 10:26:12

another EXTREME close up to show how im twisting the thruth
this is another photo before the front part of the building collapsed

see how that hole looks exactly like a plane hit ? Just like the images we see on the side of the twin towers.

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and here is the 'planes' exit hole
Yup ONLY a plane could have possibly done this.

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Re: Recent Video on Peak Oil

Postby Armageddon » Sun 10 Dec 2006, 13:13:23

lol, an aluminum plane that makes an entry hole that is smaller than the plane, and travels through several layers of reiforced concrete walls and exits through the back concrete wall. Wow, thats one heck of a plane. People, get real, only a missile could do something like this.
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Re: Recent Video on Peak Oil

Postby Armageddon » Sun 10 Dec 2006, 13:16:18

kokoda, your picture shows the wall AFTER the collapse of it. It you look at the pictures BEFORE it collapses, you can see the hole is way too small for a plane of that size to fit through. The huge engines would have made an enormous hole by themselves.
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Re: Recent Video on Peak Oil

Postby NEOPO » Sun 10 Dec 2006, 13:50:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kokoda', 'T')he majority of eye witnesses reported a large commercial aircraft plowed into the Pentagon.

The hole in the building was 90 ft wide ... plenty big enough for the fuselage of a 757.

The Pentagon was/is a very solid building ... it shouldn't be surprising that an aircraft disintergrates on impact.

Aircraft parts were found in the building.

Eyewitnesses noticed that wtc7 was leaning and out of alignment long before it collapsed. This meant that the explosives that bought it down were working in slow motion or ... more likely ... the base of the building was badly damaged when the twin towers collapsed. I might remind you ... for about the tenth time ... that there was a huge hole in the base of the building. Read the Fema report and it outlines the unique structure of this building.

I mean really, robot aircraft, faked mobile phone calls using voice immitation software, innocent passengers spirited off planes and supposedly either murdered in cold blood or being held in detention for the rest of their lives.

Do you seriously think that this sounds more plausible then the official versions of events?


They do not have to fool us all - just people like yourself - the majority.
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Re: Recent Video on Peak Oil

Postby kokoda » Sun 10 Dec 2006, 15:33:55

Why the big deal about exit holes? The aircraft shattered inside the building. There are bound to be several exit holes.

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The area of damage is quite extensive.

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If you really want to see what happens to an aircraft that hits a concrete wall at 500 MPH try looking at this

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGE ... mpact2.wmv

What is there to be fooled by NEOPO. The so called evidence in "Loose Change" is a complete joke.
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Re: Recent Video on Peak Oil

Postby kokoda » Sun 10 Dec 2006, 15:46:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('armegeddon', 'k')okoda, your picture shows the wall AFTER the collapse of it. It you look at the pictures BEFORE it collapses, you can see the hole is way too small for a plane of that size to fit through. The huge engines would have made an enormous hole by themselves.

I don't know what picture your looking at ... but it is pre-collapse. The roof and top of the wall are still clearly intact.

The roof has just started to bow.
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Re: Recent Video on Peak Oil

Postby kokoda » Sun 10 Dec 2006, 15:48:40

There is still the small matter of the 45 or so eyewittnesses that saw an aircraft hit the pentagon.

None of you have had the guts to address this.

Typical ... if it doesn't suit your version of the truth just ignore it and hope that nobody else reading this will notice.
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Re: Recent Video on Peak Oil

Postby Benzin » Sun 10 Dec 2006, 16:07:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kokoda', 'T')here is still the small matter of the 45 or so eyewittnesses that saw an aircraft hit the pentagon.

None of you have had the guts to address this.


Can't comment on the rest of this thread, but I can respond to this post. As an investigator, I would want to get a hold of these people and talk to them. You know, what did you see, when, who, where and how? Get on the record. This is basic police work when you're interviewing witnesses at a crime scene. Get names and have them make a statement as to what they saw.

So where are these supposed eyewitnesses? Not saying it ain't true or that their lying, just another question added onto the list that should be answered about this whole 9/11 thing.
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Re: Recent Video on Peak Oil

Postby Armageddon » Sun 10 Dec 2006, 16:30:52

my grandpa has a friend who's uncle's sister knew a person that saw a plane . A true eye witness
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Re: Recent Video on Peak Oil

Postby Benzin » Sun 10 Dec 2006, 16:55:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('armegeddon', 'm')y grandpa has a friend who's uncle's sister knew a person that saw a plane . A true eye witness


Hearsay. Not saying it isn't true, but we need real evidence here.

I have to agree with some folks on this thread that we're pretty much spinning our tires. Everyone has their own opinions and goes by what makes sense to them. I think this whole unfortunate event will never be completely answered anytime soon.
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Re: Recent Video on Peak Oil

Postby kokoda » Sun 10 Dec 2006, 16:59:14

These are the eyewitnesses ... with names ... and a couple of prominent names to boot.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/911_p ... esses.html
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Re: Recent Video on Peak Oil

Postby Armageddon » Sun 10 Dec 2006, 17:17:14

here is a reporter from cnn that said no way a plane hit the pentagon

http://www.freedomfiles.org/war/Cnn[1].Pentagon.Jamie.Mcintyre.swf
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Re: Recent Video on Peak Oil

Postby dukey » Sun 10 Dec 2006, 17:22:20

the height of a 747 is like 20 metres. That damage is totally inconsistent with a plane of that height crashing into it. There should have been damage right up to the top of the building, but there wasn't. Before the area collapses a lot of the windows above the crash hole are still intact !

Plus, it doesn't surprise me eyewittness saw a plane. The missile must have been delivered somehow.

Use your common sense, does it look like a 747 has crashed here ? And then, what we have a SINGLE exit hole 3 rings in. Get real ..

http://www.wtc-terrorattack.com/pentagon_crash05.jpg
http://www.wtc-terrorattack.com/pentagon_crash10.jpg
http://www.wtc-terrorattack.com/pentagon_crash11.jpg
http://www.wtc-terrorattack.com/pentagon_crash09.jpg
http://www.wtc-terrorattack.com/pentagon_crash08.jpg
http://www.wtc-terrorattack.com/pentagon_crash06.jpg

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3 rings in we have a single exit hole ? The nose cones of the planes are not designed to take any sort of impact, they are like carbon fibre.

Look at this photo carefully. I can see unburnt computers etc. Would u expect this if a fully loaded plane crashed through the building ?
http://www.wildlandfire.com/pics/nywtc_ ... ntagon.jpg

Please WHERE IS THIS HUGE HOLE ?
http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/pentagon/images/4.jpg
the freaking windows above the crash area are STILL intact ?

Look at the grass, not a mark ?
http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/pentagon/images/8.jpg
Wow must have been SOME skilled pilot.

Does it fit ? Use common sense.
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A plane did this ?
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Re: Recent Video on Peak Oil

Postby Benzin » Sun 10 Dec 2006, 17:28:14

Thanks for the witness links. I just wanted to make sure these weren't figments of my imagination. :)
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Re: Recent Video on Peak Oil

Postby Armageddon » Sun 10 Dec 2006, 17:30:49

looks exactly like a missile did this if you ask me.
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Re: Recent Video on Peak Oil

Postby kokoda » Sun 10 Dec 2006, 17:31:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('armegeddon', 'h')ere is a reporter from cnn that said no way a plane hit the pentagon

http://www.freedomfiles.org/war/Cnn[1].Pentagon.Jamie.Mcintyre.swf


He didn't witness the crash ... this guy did ... you are clutching at straws.

http://www.cnn.com/2001/CAREER/trends/0 ... atoday.wav

All the reporter was concerned about was lack of aircraft debris ... this video shows why there was a lack of debris.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGE ... mpact2.wmv
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Re: Recent Video on Peak Oil

Postby dukey » Sun 10 Dec 2006, 17:43:05

witnesses also said they saw no planes ?
which are you to believe

plus that plane in the 2nd video, the phatom F4 is TINY compared to a huge 747. If you want a basis for comparsion, theres a lot more wreckage of planes recovered from the world trade centres. They didn't vaporise to dust. And if we are supposed to believe it vaporised to dust, why the hell was there an exit hole 3 rings in. Surely there must have been some plane wreckage there ? lol ...
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Re: Recent Video on Peak Oil

Postby kokoda » Sun 10 Dec 2006, 17:49:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dukey', 't')he height of a 747 is like 20 metres. That damage is totally inconsistent with a plane of that height crashing into it. There should have been damage right up to the top of the building, but there wasn't. Before the area collapses a lot of the windows above the crash hole are still intact !

Plus, it doesn't surprise me eyewittness saw a plane. The missile must have been delivered somehow.

Use your common sense, does it look like a 747 has crashed here ? And then, what we have a SINGLE exit hole 3 rings in. Get real ..



Errr ... don't you mean a 757 ... a 747 is about 3 times bigger than a 757. If you can't even get the basic facts right how are we expected to take you seriously.

The height of a boeing 757 is 13.5 meters (tail section) and its fuselage height is between 4 and 5 meters.
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Re: Recent Video on Peak Oil

Postby Armageddon » Sun 10 Dec 2006, 17:50:37

I believe there was a plane in the vicinity to confuse people. People saw a plane heading toward the pentagon, probably the one that fired the missile. And what gets me , they didnt recover a single body. Who does write this stuff ?
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